Just wanted to suggest that Black Diamond take a look at the old Acme property on rt. 130 in Cinnaminson. There's already Brothers Pizza right there, great parking, and a gokart amusement center and Sonic currently moving in on the other end of the shopping center.

Come to Cinnaminson, please. Love to have you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Laurie, I totally agree! Win Win situation. Kids can completely spend the day..go carts, pizza, skateboarding. Plus easy transportation for those kids whose parents can't drive them to and fro. This would be a grand slam for Black Diamond and Cinnaminson!

AND, more crossing of Rt. 130

AND, more crossing of Rt. 130..........................

Uh oh, don't mess with Nancy's empty building. She's quite attached to it.

Ross, are you aware that 'sarcasm' is a weapon of the Weak???? Seems you only care about your 'clever' retort.............not the lives of some........................

I think a skate park at the Acme location is a wonderful idea! Riverton road crosswalk is right there...

1st: Black Diamond's owner has said in the past that the Acme is too large of an area for what he is looking for. 2nd: I am sure there is a reason why Black Diamond did not want the Gold's Gym that never made it off the ground (no, 2 months does not constitute a sucessful business). 3rd: One should wonder wonder what Burlington township and the landlord in Burlington is offering that Cinnaminson and the landlord here are not offering. Or is it just the obvious where rent is going to be cheaper?
@ Ross, although you may not agree with Nancy, she is entitled to her comments and yes, she does have a valid concern.
I have seen many (young & old) dead bodies on route 130 over the years and beleive it or not, some were right at the states cross-walk at Riverton Rd. People will take the shortest route possible to get where they want to be. I've read in other posts about the speed limit being reduced. Well that is ok if you have the police manpower to enforce the speeds on the highway. Burlington City as an example had the state reduce the speed to 25mph because of the high school and middle school being on the highway. It only works there because there is a constant police presence, and drivers still drive 45/50 mph through it.

Exactly Mark (regarding what is Burlington Twp offering) I also agree that the corridor needs to be safer-but I don't want to scare any business away because of it, we should envelop any kid-friendly business, and ensure that we as a township can provide this safety. Really good topic to discuss-and many have really logical solutions. I think this can happen. The old gym is a great location too. Not sure why Acme is too big-the location at the Mall was a pretty good size. I'd like to hear from the Committee-in what we can possibly offer this owner to come to our town.

@Jennifer, I aggressively courted Black Diamond to come to Cinnaminson.I discussed sites at the Shoppes, Acme, and Mainline (Gold's).The problem isn't that Committee hasn't tried to bring them to town nor does the problem have anything to do with the spaces themselves (I think there was a reference to the old Gold's space by another commentor).The problem is purely economic.BD's financial model does not afford prime retail spaces like what's found on a commercial corridor.Their model requires a certain "per square foot" dollar figuret hat is more typical of industrial zone (half the rate of retail) rents.BD is a business that generates traffic for a retail center. Oftentimes the owner of a center will lease at a loss to generate visits to their site and make up that loss by raising rents of neighboring tenants.This makes financial sense in a large mall setting where parents drop their kids off then go shopping for a few hours.Unfortunately, typical retail centers that you find on Route 130, 73, or 38 can't afford a "loss leader" to generate visits.That's where we are at a disadvantage. Retail space in Cinnaminson leases for around 12 to 22 dollars per foot. That is far out of range for BD.To answer your question directly, the only steps Cinnaminson could take to entice BD further would be to subsidize the difference in what they can afford to pay and what our centers are charging.Obviously that's not an option we would consider, but we've done our best to bring them to town

I figured that it was surely courted. Just didn't know of all that it entailed. Thanks for the information, these are things the average resident wouldn't know, I appreciate your response.

I've asked this question of contractors and many others when offering them business at a reduced rate when they are not otherwise engaged: why won't you take a reduced rate to fill the space (or time, for a contractor)? The old Acme building owner is sitting on empty retail space, and it's not being leased and I doubt she's going to fill it anytime soon (retail opening and expansion still being down in this economy). Why not charge the reduced rate just to fill the space and cover some of the ownership expenses instead of leaving it empty, in which case the building owner is footing the whole bill (taxes, mortgage, etc.)?

Mr. Minnitti - when the issue came up before about what businesses to bring to town, someone - I do not recall who it was - stated that township officials could not legally "court" businesses to come to Cinnaminson. I am assuming based on your post that that was misinformation. Could you clarify? Also, have you "aggressively courted" any other businesses to come to Cinnaminson, and if so, which ones?
Thank you for your time.

Also, is the idea of having a fence put up to deter people from trying to jump the median being explored? I think that is least they can do to ensure safety now that there will be the go-kart track, the Sonic, and the 7-11 all in close proximity. I can see it being very dangerous for over-zealous kids.

@Anonin, please come to tonight's (or any future) Township Committee meeting and I would be happy to discuss this and any other questions you may have "on the record" and on television so all residents have the benefit of a thorough explanation.

When and what station can meetings be watched?

Mr. Minniti - I was asking a question in direct response to what you posted here following the article. I am confused as to why you can't answer my follow-up question.

Christina - I notice that Mr. Minniti picks and chooses what questions to answer. It only makes sense that he could answer a simple follow-up question that was in direct response to what he stated. But I understand his game.

@Anoin, I will be happy to re-state my policy regarding comment on the articles. I do not engage in debate nor will I conduct Q&A sessions on blogs, comment sections, or on the internet. On occasion, I will sign on to make a clarifying statement if I think it provides insight to the subject of a published article. The other instance where I will comment is if intentionally misleading information is being posted by anonymous "sources" and is causing unnecessary concern and confusion among residents. In that case, I have a responsibility to ensure that the correct information is being provided. Outside of those situations, the only appropriate forum for general Q&A is at our public meeting where you stand up, state your name, address, and question for the record and I will be happy to answer your question. Your question and my response will become public record and all residents have the benefit of our interaction. When I came onto Committee in 2002, we expanded public comment portions in both our regular and executive sessions and our regular meeting continues to be televised on Comcast cable access channel 28. Cinnaminson has long been a leader in transparency and every resident has the protected right to stand up, speak their mind, and question Committee on the 1st and 3rd Mondays of the month at 7:30pm. I hope to see you there.

It is a shame that Mr. Minniti cannot answer a simple question here on Patch. Whether I am anonymous or not is not the issue. I asked a question in response to what HE posted. The constant evading of direct questions and "smoke and mirrors" games are very telling.

I asked a simple question in response to Mr. Minniti's comments. It was stated here on Patch that the Township could not legally "court" or seek out businesses to come to town. Now Mr. Minniti states that he "aggressively courted" the skate park to come here. I was asking for clarification. No smoke and mirrors here, Tim Durkin, just trying to get some information.
But as usual, Mr. Minniti dodges the question and hides behind rhetoric. If he doesn't want to answer questions or respond to residents on an online site such as this, he shouldn't be posting on Patch as a "Committeeman". Plain and simple.

And as far as identifying myself Mr. Durkin, I've heard that the Committee, Mr. Minniti in particular, does not take too kindly to being questioned or challenged, especially in a public forum. I'm not willing to risk that type of retaliation. And the last time I checked, Patch does not require posters to use their real names. Perhaps you should take your concerns regarding anonymous posters with Christina.

For SARAH.........since there was no 'reply' under her post...may I say, Sarah, does the truth hurt?? Are you jealous that I just might be 'CLEVER'....have did it apply to you, may I ask??? Stay on subject Sweety@!!

Dan, Sarah and Ross.......It's ok with me...............play your silly games...only 'children' have to keep pushing an issue..........too bad you can't use you brains for anything comstructive. I rest my case...

Dan, open you eyes..........not every comment has a 'reply' section under it...again I say, open YOUR eyes

Right now Dan, if you read your 'post' you will see that in the bottom right corner, there is no 'reply'.......therefore.....I didn't reply as no 'reply' to click on. I admit, I am not that computer literate and am elderly and retired. WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE for being on the computer so often? Retired/unemployed.........not that I care...but it is all getting childish ...............

Justin thinking out loud. Maybe someone said this already, I gave up on reading all the other comments. How about an under the road tunnel for areas like this? I am not sure about cost and things. I know they are used in other states to safely cross highways, something well lit, equipped with emergency call boxes, ramps leading in and out of the tunnel? This might not be feasible, but something to look into. Several college campuses use them as well.

Sorry "Just" not Justin

Nancy - just ignore Dan. He is the resident Patch troll. He has a bizarre fixation with the reply button, and attacked me over the same issue - I did not have a reply button below some comments either, and Dan so kindly diagnosed my computer as having a virus. I have reported him to Patch again, as he continues to police the comments over minutiae and spam them with drivel.

Yes Dan, life is hard. But at least some of us have lives.
And also why some of us really don't spend inordinate amounts of time trying to learn the intricacies of the Patch commenting system and berating others for breaching proper "use of comment button" etiquette, as you apparently have.

And a little hypocritical to bash others for using "fake user names" when yours is the same, don'tcha think? ;)

spawning?? or is it 'spewing' ..... seems more like that Dan, with you... I'm done.. no more need to post regarding this issue.........I don't suffer fools.....etc. etc. etc.