Here we go again with yet another stabbing in our fair township of Cinnaminson.
Maybe somebody could retire from selling knives and boxcutters at the nasty 'ole carnival.
(Gotta blaim some body - right?) It breaks my heart to see youth after youth involved in drug related crime. These kids could be skipping rocks across Devon pond had it not been for those evil 'ole trash trucks. Here is yet another issue being overlooked by the grand bubba - Minetti

What's going on?? We moved here about 12 yrs. ago although at my age it doesn't seem that long......AND.....perhaps because there was no Patch or I didn't know about it...we just didn't hear about all the bad things going on in Cinnaminson?? BUT, once a woman who owned that deli/food/meat store (gone now) on Rt. 130, told me she wouldn't leave her windows open at night like I did. She was a long time resident and guess she knew???
Anyway, seems to be the problem in many places with many youths...too many people, too many parents working because they have to....too many single parents....too many illegals....don't know what is the answer.

Very sad...I hope this does not become a trend.

If you don't think this happens in all communities, you better think again. Be thankful it is less common here.

Where exaclty was the dealer apprehended? Where is the nearby by residence? The police must know him as a drug dealer.

I am more concerned with how we as residents are going to demand action. Things happen but that doesn't mean actions shouldn't be taken to mitigate them. For starters, I hope that the "victim" is being charged for selling drugs on a playground and to a minor at that. Also, as a resident in the Harbour, I hope that there are plans in place to install motion sensitive lights in the playground to make it safer at night and draw more attention to it when it really shouldn't be occupied.

ahh heck takem to juvie slapem on the behind and letem back out on the streets jeez hes a good boy!!!!! aint this every stories ending?? signed tired of it all!!!

Cinnaminson Harbor is actually in Palmyra, not Cinnaminson.

RUth you are thinking Palmyra Harbor

My House backs up to the Playground. Can anyone tell me did this happen in the playground at the apartments or the playground near me in the townhouse section? I was not home last night. So this has come as a shock.

People, do we need to move? No! Moving does nothing. This is a nice community with some sour grapes. Instead of being 21st century, lets actually talk to one another and band together to get tools in place to protect our families. Lights and such. Also, when you hear kids cursing on the basketball court, tell them to stop. You will be surprised that they actually will and will apologize too. I just ask that people don't give up on the community. The whole town is nice, just not everyone is...

Hey Roger why don't you ask Tony & Ben to help out with the problems in the Harbor. I mean after all they made such promises to everyone in ER if they voted for them, it's time to put your $ where your mouth is! Help these people out!

John I live on Helen backing up to the park I think those of us that live next to the park need to ban together and get Management to put restrictions on the park. To many teenagers hanging out after dark. The township passed an ordinance at townships parks to close at dusk we should have the same thing.

Too many clueless residents in Cinnaminson. No surprise here really. You might remember an article from last year about "low income" housing going in at Cinnaminson Harbor.... And yes, it is in Cinnaminson. The powers that be voted to mix all low income buyers in with those who paid full price and taxes for their homes (rather than use on or two units instead). Now you don't know where they are or who they are. Hey, everyone should have a chance to make their lives better, but this is at our expense. We paid a lot of money for our home, yet some paid much much less, and can move in to the identical place next to us and bring their low-life morals with them. And isn't stabbing someone in the chest attempted murder? And it's only going to get worse, they are well aware that our Police force is working on fumes with no plans of hiring. Something really needs to be done about the way our Township is run! It was just a joke before, but now things are really getting out of hand. Between the Sewer Authority mess, our Police force dwindling and violent crime escalating, wake up Cinnaminson!!

Crime is everywhere... But glad I moved out of the Cinna Harbour before it was a hot mess!!!

For Rick......BS Rick, I am not over reacting!! My post was just plain and simple... you need a brain check. The first few years we lived here I don't recall any such 'crapj etc.' as is happening now. BUT, could be because I now have Patch to keep me up to date and aware!

Crime hasn’t changed people. Technology and instant sharing of information has. Patch, smartphones, facebook, etc make us instantly aware. Most of these major crime stories don’t even make the BCT which was the only way in the past to learn about them. Crime happens and always has!

My condo is directly across from the playground this occured. The incident doesn't make me feel any less safe or worry about living in the the Harbour. The majority of the people who own the condos / townhouses are young working professionals. Anyone who actually lives in the community knows that. Any incidents I've heard of have been either domestic or drug related. Nothing anyone has cited involved physical harm to an (innocent) victim who is a non-related resident. These type of incidents happen all throughout Cinnaminson as we see here in the patch every day. The Harbour is by far the most highly populated community in town. It makes sense that we would see more occuring there.

I dont know. back in my younger years... we might have smoke our share of pot, but noone ever got stabbed or beat up or robbed... we were all like GROOVY MAN !!!! WANT A FLOWER !!!??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :)
Can't we all just get along.

Cinnaminson be's safes and sizzound! Peeps was just be's tryins to play up in dat dere playgrizzound. The solutean be's clear. Let you's women's and childrens wander freely around tizzown. - Ctown edumacated residentizzle

I live here in the Harbour too and very shocked about yesterday's incident. We already decided a couple weeks ago to buy a house outside the community after considering to buy here. I am so glad that we didn't go through with the original plan.

This incident occurred in a Tot Lot that is not visible from the street. It is a small area that would barely qualify as a park. I know people who have pools larger than this area. Whoever was involved went out of their way to find a relatively secluded area or they lived in the development or the apartments. I have been here for 6 years and, also, have never had an issue. There is crime wherever you live - I came from Philly and moved here to get away from the insanity and I am glad I did. If you live in the community - come to the condo board meetings, express your concerns and help work towards a resolution. The carriage house board meetings are virtually unattended. I do not know about the community board meetings. Cinnaminson Harbour has good hardworking families for the most part and we want to continue to attract good people to move into our community - there are a few bad apples everywhere. Let's work together to resolve this so we can all feel safe in our homes and in our community.

Looking on the Twp's site it looks like our Prosecutor is Daniel Gee located at 900 Manor Rd. I will try to contact him tomorrow to see what his plans are for prosecuting the named party involved. As expresses before, he should be charged, stabbed or not. I don't feel too sorry for him being stabbed while selling drugs...on a playground...to a minor. If he doesn't seem too responsive I will need to lean on you, the residents of this community to help me push this. In addition, I too wonder why someone who stabs someone else in the chest hasn't been charged with murder. I will ask Mr. Gee that as well. A combination of safety measures and tough love should help us sustain a thriving community.

Ric...........give it up........I notice that all you do is crab/criticize/rag other posts... guess you have nothing substantial to say so 'stow it"....

What did you expect in Cin City

For the record all those of you who jumped on "they must be from the low income apartment housing" band wagon. You are wrong. neither person came from the apartments

I recently moved to Nathan Dr. and having the street lit up by police lights was not what I expected for my first fourth of july here...I was thinking more along the lines of seeing fireworks over the river.... I refuse to let these scumbags destroy the reason why I chose to move here, so I would like to join in finding a way to proactively make this a safer place. We need to be in a position to discourage these crimes from happening rather than reacting to them when they do. We should form group to go to the association meetings, BUT also to the town meetings...maybe we can get more police presence here. Understaffed or not it seems to be a growing need for this community and town council needs to hear it.

For people who have lived in this town for a long time, some seem to forget alot of things. Cinnaminson has had a big drug problem since I went to school in the 70's. That's why Cinnaminson High was referred to as Heroin High. Some of us live with blinders on, crime happens in every town..whether it is white collar, such as the sewerage plant or whether it is a stabbing. Where are you going to hide? Every town has it's crime. It is up to the parents to control thier children and for people to speak up if they see something happening, not hide behind your curtains. Nancy you have so much negative and nasty things to say, I'm just letting you know how you come across when I read these posts. I love this town. I moved here in the fifties and left for 18 years then moved back in the 90's. I think the positive out way the negative in this town. remember there are good people and bad people in every town....I just happen to think there are more good in Cinnaminson than bad.

Well, when we bought this house I wondered why there were so many 'safey features' on doors, windows, extra coverings on the door insides etc. etc.....now I know being informed by so many posters who have lived here a long time. It's a shame when you have to go around checking the windows/doors etc. to make sure the are locked securely each night or before you leave the house. Guess it's that way in many towns/cities now.....crime seems to be rampant all over....the economy??? Guess not from what many posters say...as in the past we've had some really good economic times (along with the bad). AND person who keeps knocking my posts........that's all he/she seems to do...never saying anything substantial............

I feel sorry for you Nancy, that you have such a fear of living in this town. It sounds like you have made your own home a prison. I am one of those people who don't have alot of money, moved back after a divorce and raised 2 wonderful men, in this what you think is a scarey place to live. Like I said before negativity breeds negativity. I am not knocking your posts, just letting you know you come across as a very negative person...try thinking of some of the good kids and adults in this town and more of the positive. I do not have rose colored glasses on either, I know there are problems but just complaining about them will not resolve anything. Maybe you should get involved in helping a youth organization in town and you will get a different perspective. I have coached Cinnaminson PAL soccer and have met many wonderful kids from this town...and granted sometimes they get in trouble but kids will sometimes do that. And for goodness sake stopping watching the news which is 98% negative and they only show a 2% positive.

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah...get off your soap box........did I bash single parents or those needing financial help? NO NO NO..........But when you pay out lots of money for a home/condo or whatever you expect a safe haven. AND, for you and that Ric... I said that 'when we bought this house it was equiped with all kinds of safety features already. We were also told by a long time resident (owner of the long gone Hillers, not to leave my windows open at night as she never did). Therefore we already knew of some criminal action in Cinnaminson. Never in my post do I sound desperate or afraid........just cautious as many of my neighbors are. Thankfully, in my area we share and look after each other in many ways. I'm also sure this is evident in many areas of Cinnaminson as well as other nearby towns. Lets be honest here and reasonable............our world has changed greatly as our population increases all over the world......our economy is bad...........many jobless. Instead of bashing those who post reasonably perhaps some should get 'a chip off' and take posts as they are meant instead of criticism of themselves and theirs.

I think we need to talk about getting motion lights back there. I'm not happy that this happened in my backyard, but we need to be proactive and make the playground a place where shady people won't want to hang out. Anyone know when the next neighborhood meeting is? I know the last one got cancelled...

Thank you, leb, for getting this conversation back on the right track. This discussion should be for those IN the neighborhood of the incident that want to get together and DO SOMETHING about it....not for debate about crime through the decades and who's house has locks. Come on people. I was walking my dog past THAT park at 9:30 THAT night...I want to hear from ppl who want to join together to raise hell about this! And the first order of business is definitely getting lights out there

seems to be the problem in many places with many youths...too many people, too many parents working because they have to....too many single parents....too many illegals....don't know what is the answer. This is from your post on Monday. This is a back handed comment that as a single parent I take exception to. You make it sounds as though these people, are the problem. I wish you could talk to some of the kids I know, some with gay parents, some with single moms or dads, maybe some are illegal, all I know is we should help our youth and give them positive feedback, not tell them how bad they are all the time. Cinnaminson is a great town, and I am proud to have grown up here and raised my children here. I hope you find your shangra la Nancy...and I wish you well.

Sorry Alp you are right, I got caught up.......

No need for apologies...we just need to focus on whats important and thats keeping the people safe in this community. I appreciate your respect for this town, though.

I think we all need to relax. The guy was probably just selling pot, which happens everywhere. He just happened to sell it to an idiot with a knife who happens to live in our neighborhood. We just need some precautions to prevent people from thinking our neighborhood is a good place to practice illegal activities.

Correct.

I've lived in Cinnaminson for 23 years and, during that time, I have left my windows and doors unlocked for most of those years (except when there were a few house and car break-ins. Helps that I feel secure with 2 dogs in the house but I've felt pretty much safe for most of that time. That being said, the majority of the crimes in our town boil down to one thing-drugs. Look at the past Patch stories and many our own children. This is not me being negative but we need to do more to get a handle on this problem here and in our neighboring town Palmyra near the Riverline. Talking about it in the schools is not enough; parents, non-parents, business owners are all affected by this. Special town meetings to discuss how we can help; let me know where and when. It's time we do something about the underlying problem.

Agreed Roger, I back up to the park too. I had never seen anyone back there after dark before...it is usually people going down to the water that we have to call the cops on. I figured motion lights wouldn't bother us if we close our blinds. We need to figure something out. I guess putting up a sign would give us a reason to be allowed to call the cops because right now, there is no rule against being out there at night. We have such a nice neighborhood, it is a shame to let stupid people ruin it.

Let's face it. People who buy or sell drugs are not the smartest folks around. Buying and selling drugs has risks. Most people are smart enough to never get involved.. Most..

Better lighting, town patrols, quad rotor attack drones... May solve the issue... In one area... But like roaches dealers, buyers, and addicts will always find a dark corner to deal in.

Neighbors: I moved to cinnaminson harbor recently bit is on the border of Riverton, not palmyra. I am the residence that this young man tried to break thru my door to seek refuge. He was hurt and requesting I let him in. Not sure if this was a ruse to harm me, I called 911 and assured him help was on the way. I did not feel safe. He wasn't cooperative with the officers and medics, and he was stabbed in the back and bleeding profusely. I am a nurse and want to caution people that without proper equipment and safety materials , the innocent helper can really endanger themselves. The fine medics and police have the know-how to get these victims/ perpetrators to where they need to be. Do not open your door, it could also be a ruse to hurt you. I was able to call 911 and the response time was within minutes. I'm extremely appreciative to the officers who responded , they were extremely professional and caring. On a side note, and to clear any rumors why my front door?? My neighbors have rumored that I had a party and someone got stabbed, I was awakened by the commotion at my door and do not know any of the parties involved, there was no party!!! I don't throw parties in this little townhouse. Ever.

I just moved out of Cinnaminson Harbour a few months ago, and I'm glad I did. I bought my townhome in 2008. While I lived there, I've witnessed the following:
1. peope tresspassing in the woods/river bank (nearly an everyday occurance)
2. people smoking pot in the woods
3. a drug bust involving a teenager in the woods
4. a police search for an armed robber who was hiding in the woods
5. a naked man (who was obviously on drugs or just plain psychotic) that stopped traffic at the enterence River Rd & Harbour Blvd - he jumped in front of my car on my way home from work one night!

Now I hear about this crazy stabbing incident. I'm glad I'm out of there. A combination of low income housing and surplus rentals have resulted in this crap. It's people who just don't care about where they live because they don't own anything. For those who want to say, "oh, it's not the low income housing or rentals" - you know you are wrong. It is. Let's call it for what it is. It needs to stop. I feel sorry for residents who are still there that can't get that damn HOA do to anything for them and help keep them safe.

I moved to Camalot apts 1 month ago and I am pretty happy here. I am a RN and pay regular rental fee and not a low income rental fee. From what I understand, it is a universal thing now with all apartment complexes to have low income mixed in . These apartments are beautiful inside, if well taken care of, as well as beautiful landscape around us.It is a shame that scattered light trash cant be put in the many dumpsters and recycle cans throughtout the complex.Sprinkler heads being messed with by young children and need to be repaired because of a parent not watching their young children.How about teaching your children how nice it is to live in a nice, well maintained place we should be calling home. Lets all be responsiblein keeping our homes beautiful and safe.I grew up in cinnaminson, and still have family here.Quite a few CHS grads stayed here or came back , such as I. I am very proud of this township!

You people who keep trying to say this is because of low-income housing should be ashamed of yourselves. You are being asinine and judgmental. You don't know any of those people, why they are low-income, or what their morals are. I'm glad I don't know any of you bigots personally - you're not good enough to know.