Using the extra $161,000 for tax relief sounds like a really great idea.

Yessssssssssssssssss, now my son's teacher can have a BMW for the winter and 1 for the summer!!

P4P, if you use a numerical character in place of a word, than you have proven the importance of education.

visit data universe and review the salaries of teachers. most earn in the $50-$60,000 range. your comment is really pathetic

Parents 4 piece . Are you kidding me? You are so clueless that U am dumbfounded and have nothing else to say. Go live in your dreamworld.

@Agent Itchy & Radiohead. Both of you need to get over yourselves. What part of you prevents you to comprehend and accept opinions from people who differ with your opinion? Your response to parents 4 peace show how shallow both of you are.

PS: Agent Itchy, this isn't the New York Times! You forgot to point out the excessive use of s in yes. Do you always spell out the number when you text? Patch is very informal, like texting. Parents was trying to add a little levity to his point which apparently offends your false sense of moral superiority.

agent itchy,
You forgot to capitalize "visit", "most", and "your" at the beginning of your last three sentences or to put a period at the end of the last sentence.
This is a poor showing for a teacher.

I agree with parents 4 peace. No more summer cars for teachers!

apologies to all i have offended. my point remains valid; teachers earning $55,000 is nothing to whine about. teachers in NJ earn an average income.

don't we want quality teachers in our schools? frankly, i think teachers should earn a better wage. my issue with NJ schools isn't the salaries but the number of school districts. no state in the US has as many school districts per capita than NJ.

point your anger at the 600 district superintendents and their staffs.

Het a TOP paid Teacher on Board with the State controlled by the great Chris Christie,
don't say that too loud Mr Illuzzi your union will be all over you. Great job CC

@Agent Itchy, Y’all need to stop inventing facts to support your arguments. Cinnaminson teachers earn much more than the $55,000 you falsely claim. Out of over 200 teachers there are only 17 teachers earning $55,000 a year or less. THE AVERAGE TEACHER’S SALARY IS CLOSE TO $70,000.

Actually, starting wages for a teacher in Cinnaminson is $53,795. But just about every teacher gest paid much more:

NJ Public School Teachers, 2011-12

1. At $96,498 Therese Garbett is the highest paid teacher. Plus there are 3 more teachers earning in the $90.
2. Then there are 29 school district employees earning in the $80s.
3. This is followed by 35 teachers earning in the $70s.
4. And there are 76 teachers earning in the $60s.
5. There are 62 teachers employees earning in the $50s. Remember minimum is $53,795.

My count only includes people who are listed as teaching classes. I did not include administrators, nurses or anyone else not teaching.

In closing, THE AVERAGE TEACHER’S SALARY IS CLOSE TO $70,000.
http://www.app.com/section/DATA/DataUniverse

Ric and John
You guys continually whine about every topic that ever comes up on this board. Can you say sour grapes ? This is America. An average salary of 50- 70,000 dollars is not much these days. You guys sit back, read the patch, and just love to attack everything and everybody.

And John, before you call anyone brain dead, please tidy up your misuse of the English language. Maybe if you took some time to pay attention to these " overpaid" educators you would learn to think a little rather than just regurgitate a few things that you read here and there.

I went to the site that Ric linked.
It looks to me that MOST teachers are earning salaries in the $60-70,000 range.
The higher paid teachers usually had either many years of experience or advanced degrees. I do not think paying a teacher $60-70.000 is out of line. Yes, the whole tenure process does need to be re-vamped, but quality teachers who do their jobs and are effective and actually teach our kids every day deserve every penny they earn and more.

Personally, you couldn't pay me double to be a teacher in today's day and age. Putting up with ridiculous mandates from the state and feds, dealing with difficult students and parents, worrying about teaching to a test, is only the tip of the iceberg. I have friends and family members who are teachers and after hearing what they have to deal with, I know I could never do it. Good teachers in today's day and age are priceless, and we should give them the respect they deserve.

There is no truth to the myth of hardworking teachers at Cinnaminson because of the student–teacher ratio: 11.7. Teachers are paid for extracurricular activities such as $1040 for working on an elementary school year book. The teacher's day ends around 3:00 P.M. And consist of teaching 5 classes at most with 2 periods where they can grade test or etc. And they get 2 ½ months off every summer. And like I previously proved, the average teacher earns close to $70,000 year for 9 ½ months of work.
And not factored in above is the cost of teacher’s benefits including an expensive health care plan and pension.
Nor have I yet to discuss how fat the school administrators are paid.
It is a shame that the average Cinnaminsonian is not paid anywhere nearly as nice as our school district employees. It is the poor taxpayer that is deserving of respect.

I am comvinced that Ric is extremely bitter if anyone earns too much. Of course, that means too much in Ric's humble opinion. Just keep sitting back and judging !!!
The rest of us will go out and earn.

I think teachers should make $546.00 a year and their raise should be a jawbreaker and slice of gum.

You remind me of jello Biafra

To Ric and John, what the heck do you guys make a year? Teachers must have at least a 4 year degree to teach, and many go much further. $50-$70k per year is peanuts. You can barely live in Cinnaminson on a $50k salary. Look around Cinnaminson, most household incomes are well over 6 figures. I can think of 50 other professions that make well over $50k per year, and many don't even need a college education. Too many administrators? Maybe. But take it easy on our teachers.

Ric and John live in a different reality than the rest of us . They continue to contribute negativity to each and every thread and are particularly threatened if , God Forbid, someone else demonstrates greater success than they do. Furthermore, when one of us exposes their in discretionary commentary, they retort back with smug , trite replies.
They continue in the delusion that they are the watchdogs of Cinnaminson.

Bull Pitt is an overpayed teacher, hence his ridonculous comments. Bull Pitt = high school degree yet makes 80K as a teacher lounging 3 months a year while the real workers are still working 12 months a year.

I make 65k a year by taking advantage of the king on high's entitlement programs. Why work when you can sip off the nip of all the other hard working saps?

I have to say that what the teachers make is nothing compared to what they have to deal with it...ok they may only be in school from September to June but if I had to deal with some of the parents I see posting on the patch I would ask for at least 100k$.

Moorestown is increasing the school tax because they are a progressive town. They know what it takes for a town to flourish. Good schools with teachers who are paid fairly.

Agreed. Furlough teachers, not real workers!

Oh my goodness, you poor little bo beeps have lost your sheep. I'd like to see 1 of you try to go on the bender I was on this weekend and still make it to school to teach a long day of tetherball and jumping jacks.

You people are stupid. You cant compare teachers salaries alone. You need to look at ALL the benefits. Healthcare, pensions, vacation, sick leave.

And 70k for a teacher?!??

Dont forget thats for only 9 months!!!!!!!!
So its more like 100k / year rate.

And what teachers deal with??? Are you kidding??

Im sure the guy working as a line cook, or the guy collecting garbage is working much harder for much less salary is working harder than these teachers who show ip to work in their BMW, dressed to impress, and teaching my kindergarten student.

Teachers should know salary range before even choosing to go into education. And if they truly care about students, then they shouldn't be worried about salary. Teachers work 9 months a year. They're usually in school from about 7:15 to 2:30 at the latest. Keep in mind that during the day they have many "off periods" where they don't teach.

Isn't 65 to 70K per year a middle class income? Why would anyone not be in favor of paying a teacher a middle class wage?

65-70k per year is based on a 12 month salary.

For teachers the equivalent number would be around 50-55k per year.

Btw - its not their salaries which are costing taxpayer dollars.

Its their insane benefits packages which are above and beyond anything anyone in the private sector is seeing in this economy.

They make less so they get a good benefit package. It is pretty simple. It is not just about working hard . It is about the responsibility involved. A doctor makes more than a laborer . Does the doctor work harder??

@tjones. Totally agree. These are the facts that John and Ric conveniently fail to mention . And Ric also stated that they make up to 1040.00 to manage extracurricular activities or coach . He has no idea how much extra time these activities take. They also do not take into account the many hours if prep work involved. They just do not get it. Hopefully , they will someday see the value of good, quality educators and a nice facility for our kids to attend.

Ric
You are the ultimate spin man. You really should be a politician. You say you ignore me. The reason you ignore me is that it is convenient to support YOUR point of view with only the little facts that support your points.
I realize that you are the hero of all of us taxpayers. I know that your intentions are good. However, the chip on your shoulder often distorts the truth . As a result, you come off as a bit obtuse.

And John. The music thing is old. The Rolling Stones are a bore. I can't argue the merits of Bach.

Lets see, more money to spend besides what he wants for new schools, Radio where is the data on the BETTER SCHOOLS....oh I know your researching right....

Hey, speaking of wasting money, has anyone noticed the super huge pile of dirt off Church Rd in Moorestown? We could raise taxes just a little bit and make the sledding hill even bigger! We don't even need to have it approved, I know someone who can pass it right thru the planning board without their okay and then bypass the committee to have it funded. Come on, it's bound to snow sometime this decade, maybe even today! Break out the toboggans!