The flooding problems in Cinnaminson are definitely worthy of the Township's attention. I absolutely disagree that the Township has "nothing to do with the flooding issues" as reported! What about the police that are called out when a car has been stranded in the middle of Fairfax Drive, due to it's depth? What about the fire trucks called out to empty out the basements of those facing several feet of water? What about the township employees that are paid to put out orange cones, every time the floodwaters rise? What about the destruction to the streets that are holding all this water, seeping into the ground and loosening the macadem? What about the lack of availability for emergency services should these areas be necessary to travel to or through? What about the responsibility to the township residents regarding not only their safety but property values that are suffering?
At the very least, the township should be appointing someone to work directly with the residents and properties being flooded? To ask the very residents effected to spearhead this effort sounds a little to convenient. These people have full time jobs, and in some cases, first time homeowners. Knowing who and what to do, let alone making and taking calls during times when the residents are working their own jobs! Come on Cinnaminson, passing the buck is not the way to go here! Assign an expert to help. You may not have jurisdiction over the creek, but you do over the effected properties!

Christina.. Absolutely NOT the case! The township officials are suppose to be helping its tax paying citizens! They do NOTHING! Part of it is their problem! Since the construction of The Shoppes at Cinnaminson the flooding has gotten worse. Where do you think that water is draining into going down that big hill? Right in the areas that already were suffering from flooding! How do you value a home within a flood zone comparable to a home that isn't? I know what this township does.. They see no difference and therefore assess us way over the actual value. Another issue I have.. Since the township is aware of the multiple flood areas why are real estate transactions allowed to close without the potential buyer being told this info?
Arnold.. Don't let the township tell you this flooding is out if their hands! Just another LIE!
Here goes another ? Maybe someone knows the answer because our payed Township officials don't. Does this township have a Repetive Loss condition in their Flood Ordinance? If NOT, Why not? Oh I know that answer.. They don't care! It doesn't effect them so why take the extra step & help their tax paying citizens. I want answers! No, I demand answers! I will NEVER stop this fight until the township steps up and does their JOB! I will be at the next TWSHP Meeting so whomever is effected by the flooding please join me.

I guess the state is to blame for all the problems with the rivers and how god put them into action...I think that most of the problems will be b/c someone wanted to put in housing and did not count on the fact of run off waters from the surrounding areas...It all comes down to who what when where and why....More houses means more ratables which in turn means more taxes collected....Do not know who would build a house near a river which could flood....And then who would give the ok to build it there any way, sorry but I do not have the answers to those questions but when its tax time they want there money....

The 1/9/2013 article on Patch titled "Mayor Young Wants to Tackle Flooding Issues" is counter to the article above. I understand the other article is tackling East Riverton but the body of water in that area is also not township-owned, is it? But the Mayor has been working with DEP, DOT and Army Corp of Engineers on flooding issue there. Engineers will be giving input end of month. Based on above does that mean only a system to pump water is feasible for East Riverton and not other areas. Or that funding is not available for the examination and fix for other flooded areas.

Since this an article about the flooding issues, one of the primary initiatives for the new Mayor, is there a reason there was no link in this article to the previous article like Patch does on so many other articles? As a reference? It was done on the followup about new medical facility as I was told when I asked previously answered questions.

Dajoepa75.., they want us to keep paying our over assessed property taxes and just Shut up! Isn't going to happen, at least NEVER from me! My husband works his tail off on High Energy Power lines and to sometimes return home from a 16 hour shift is forced to sleep in the car until water recedes. This is UNACCEPTABLE! He is out restoring power to others while personal property is floating away or getting severely damaged! WE have had ENOUGH!

Barbara, I am a new resident and taxpayer. If you are at the next Town meeting demanding we taxpayers pay to fix your dumb choice in home locations so will I. Answer these questions. Did you know you were buying a home near water? Did you know it was in a flood area? Did you have to have flood insurance? Guess what Sherlock? This is YOUR fault and YOUR problem to solve. Why should my tax dollars go to save you from something you did to yourself? It's not government's job to bail (no pun intended) you out of your own stupidity. You knew what you were buying when you bought it, and now you don't like what you have. Stop complaining and move to higher ground. Our town better hold their ground on this one and say no to wasting time and tax dollars saving the problems people got themselves into

i grew up in this neighborhood on lejune road. from the time i was there to the time i left at the age of 20 it was an issue. i'm really surprised that the township has NOT done anything about it to this day. back then they said the same thing tho. "it won't get that bad", "it's not our creek so we can't do anything about it"....sorry that's bs. it's been upwards of 40 years that the people in that neighborhood (some i'm still in touch with) have been going through this. why doesn't someone from cinnaminson contact someone from pennsauken and possibly work on a solutions together? makes sense to me.

Thanks for supporting my point ss. It was bad 40 years ago. So only a fool would buy a home in an area that you say has been bad for 40 years. There's something called personal responsibility and these residents need to learn something about it. To you joe, your part of the probem too. Open space dollars are my tax dollars and shouldn't be spent buying people new homes because they don't like the ones THEY bought THEMSELVES. The problem in this country is that everyone wants the government to take care of them. Sell your house and buy somewhere away from the water people.

Angryypungtaxpayer... Too bad I can't say what I want to say to your STUPIDITY! I won't answer your IGNORANT ?'s!
Such a BIG MOUTH with NO FACE behind it! COWARD!

Did you ever hear of real estate FRAUD? Did u ever hear of people moving here from another STATE? You are BEYOND STUPID! Give a real name & face to your Pathetic self!

Angryyoungtaxpayer, You are way off track. I moved into the East Riverton section of Cinnaminson 9 years ago and was informed by neighbors (long time residents) that there was never flooding issues that reached even close to our home. Our house wasn't even listed in a flood zone area, and we were UNABLE to purchase flood insurance. We took precautions prior to moving in by having a French Drain System installed, and then had our basement finished. This worked great until the Condo's were built and the flooding took over. We lost a great deal in the first flood, and didn't have insurance to help us through. A sump pump CAN'T push water out when flooding surrounds your home on all 4 sides. I hope you never wake up to the sound of water pouring through your basement walls. There is alot of heartache as well as back breaking work involved when a home floods. You suggested she move to higher ground....Heads up....Very difficult to sell a home when constant flooding is involved.

Jenn.. June will be 10 years for us. Our home & the home behind us changed owners almost the exact same week. Both of us were told 2 days b4 settlement we need Flood Insurance but it NEVER Floods! At that time we already SOLD our prior home in another State.
This Township is a Disgrace! If this idiot above stopped running his clueless mouth he would see that the township only has to add a repetitive loss clause to their Flood Ordinance and then we can have our Flood Insurance Carrier help with funds TOWARD raising our homes! It takes one Attorney, 1 Sentence, 1 piece if paper but they are too lazy for that.

angry.....i don't support how you come across at all, i'm just surprised that it's been so long.....and nobody did anything about it yet. personally i think you sound like a fool. anyway, that's why i left that town. yes, barb knew what she was buying.....but it was known that there would be more flooding problems once that shopping mall went up, yet they put it up anyway. they should have worked on trying to fix the problem before building. but of course their greed got in the way.

Angry what's your name? I will make sure to introduce myself and my husband at the next meeting.

Thank u Danoepa75 This person is a COWARD to say the least! Bring on Feb 3rd, I can't wait to meet this Young IDIOT!

I wonder if anyone has an answer for the massive flooding on Fairfax Drive itself. I take River Road home daily from Camden and take Fairfax Dr. Everyone who drives there knows the massive flooding on the actual road. The barricades may or may not be up where the worst flooding occurs back there. Is there any liability for the flooding of the road itself if not blocked off and car drives into it unknowingly (especially after dark).

To those affected by the flooding - have you consulted an attorney?
I would think that you could possibly initiate litigation against the builders of the new developments who caused the flooding in the first place. If there are a group of you that are affected, maybe get one attorney to represent all of you and split the attorney's fees.
I don't see that suing the Township is going to be effective.
Was there a history of flooding prior to the new developments? If not, then I think you would have a pretty strong case. I would pursue any avenue that you can.
That said, I do agree with the YoungTaxPayer in that the rest of the residents of Cinnaminson should not have to foot the bill for this. If the Township is sued and loses, I guess the rest of us will have to pick up the tab. Sometimes that is how it goes I suppose.

Thats an interesting comment....I would guess an attorney would have to get involved but who knows....Do not know if your auto insurance would cover water damage...Lets hope we never get into that position. Have a good one....

@angryyoungtaxpayer, You really do have issues and not just about the possibility of your taxes going up to handle flood areas. Do you need to personally attack or disrespect someone to make a point. Or are you always angry about everything in your life. If you have a valid point there is a way to make it without the use of sarcasm and disrespect. You not only belittle the person you've directed your anger towards but you belittle yourself.

@AnoninCinna..Its the Township and its Officials who I PAY as well as you do to do their Jobs! They have NOT ANYTHING! If you read my comments correctly the Township has 1 Minor thing to do! Add Repetitive Loss to their Flood Ordinance. This doesn't cost them a penny more than the paperwork. We pay our taxes as well as Flood Insurance. Therefore, its our Flood policies that help with raising our home or buying us out! Don't worry...NOT 1 extra penny will be added on to the tax payers! It's that SIMPLE! Oh and by the way the new construction of The Shoppes at Cinnaminson.. The property was township owned because the prior owner abandoned it.

Angry another bully sitting behind a screen! Can't wait to meet you in person, matter of fact I am ecstatic! Mark your calendar, Feb 3rd it is!

The Shoppes at Cinnaminson are most certainly not owned and were not built by the Township. A developer had to purchase the land and that developer is who built the current structures now situated on it. Perhaps you could find out who that developer is and initiate a class-action lawsuit on behalf of all the people affected.
My comment about the tax payers not footing the bill was in reference to if the Township had to "buy you out" (as you said) or had to pay for extensive repairs or restructuring to the water source. That would cost a lot, and someone has to pay. "The Township" does not have its own money. We, the taxpayers would have to supply the necessary funding, which I am guessing would be in the millions.
I am wondering if there is something the state could do, if it is indeed a state waterway.

That would make sense dejoepa75. I would think they could ask for a reassessment to be done and then file that with the Township, who could adjust their taxes accordingly.

We pay the same amount of taxes compared to a home that flooding doesn't occur! Does it make sense? Not in the least bit! The land in which The Shoppes of Cinnaminson were created was acquired by the township because of the prior owner leaving it abandoned over a period of time. The Developer had to go through the Township for approvals to build! The township was well aware of the flooding but pushed it aside as the almighty $$, tax revenue always triumphs.

So, the township does not have this "repetitive loss ordinance'? Barb Rivera-why do you think that is? I assume you have asked the town before.
Christina, have you ever heard of this as a journalist?

I have only heard of a repetitive loss ordinance however it's definitely not something a municipality can just enact and you get money; I sort of think that's a misconception here but it's not even close to that.

First of all, Cinnaminson does not have that ordinance and I don't know of a town that does. That just means I've never covered a town that had one. For all I know, surrounding towns could have them—I just have no idea. However, I highly doubt it though.

But even before a municipality would enact such an ordinance, the township would need a floodplain management ordinance. If Cinnaminson has one, I don't know about it.

Yes, we live along a major river but it is lowered in times of heavy rain events like Irene and Sandy. I live along the river and feared the river would flood where I live, but it wasn't even close.

So even if the township had that floodplain management ordinance, and the business owner or homeowner met the proper requirements under the repetitive loss ordinance, the only thing someone would get is up to $30,000 to get their home or business in compliance with that floodplain management ordinance.

I'm sure all of this can be better explained by the township administrator of members of the township committee. I highly suggest those residents who want answers from the township go to the February meeting. I will be there to talk to as well.

Ric - please re-read what I stated. I stated that The Shoppes ARE NOT owned by Cinnaminson - meaning currently, and were not built by Cinnaminson. Unless I missed something and Cinnaminson Township is now moonlighting as a construction company. There is blame to be shared - by the owner/developer and the Township - but that is only IF they "knew" about the flooding.
Did that area of town flood back when it was the old Acme site? If I recall correctly, the old Woolco/Caldor/Cinnaminson Mall site was elevated. Wouldn't that have caused flooding also? I am sure someone somewhere has a legal case. Let's just hope it doesn't come at the rest of the taxpayers' expense.

There were studies done in 2003 and 2004 in this area. I believe the recommendation was to dredge the Pennsauken Creek in this area. At that time we put a band aid on the situation while the State, Township, Army Corp and others were to do their due diligence to get this area help. This was pre The Shoppes at Cinnaminson. Additionally, we conducted a study and a cost to dredge Steels Pond in Memorial Park ($500,000 in 2004 dollars) to try and help alleviate and provide flow and capacity at high tide. I left office in January 2005 and don't know what has been done since that time. If the Committee hasn't, please ask them to dig up the old reports as some sort of guidance. While much of the data can be outdated, at least it provides a point of reference. I believe Remington and Vernick provided Engineering assistance while Fred Turek was the Township Engineer through R & V and not a Township employee.

@ Ms. Rivera
Increased Cost of Compliance (ICC) or Coverage D is part of the Standard Flood Insurance Policies. Claims for ICC benefits are filed separately from your initial claim.
The ICC pays to comply with a State or local floodplain management law or ordinance affecting repair or reconstruction of a structure suffering flood damage. Compliance activities eligible for payment are: elevation, floodproofing, relocation, or demolition (or any combination of these activities) of your structure.
Note: Eligible floodproofing activities are limited to Nonresidential structures, and Residential structures with basements that satisfy FEMA’s standards published in the Code of Federal Regulations [44 CFR 60.6 (b) or (c)].
The policy will pay up to $30,000 under this ICC, which only applies to policies with building coverage. Payment under ICC is in addition to the amount of coverage which is selected on the application and which appears on the Declarations Page. The maximum collected under the flood policy for both Coverage A - Building Property and Coverage D – ICC cannot exceed the maximum permitted under the Act. The current maximum flood insurance building coverage limit available under the Act are; $250,000 for residential buildings

Building sustaining a loss caused by a flood located in a special flood hazard area must either be classified as a repetitive loss structure or a structure that has had substantial flood damage in which the cost to repair equals or exceeds 50 percent of the market value of the structure at the time of the flood. And, the State or community must have a cumulative repetitive loss provision and/or a substantial damage provision in its floodplain management law ordinance.
Repetitive loss structure is one that meets the following conditions:
(a) The structure is covered by a NFIP flood insurance
(b) The structure has suffered flood damage on two occasions during a 10-year period which ends on the date of the second loss.
(c) The cost to repair the flood damage, on average, equaled or exceeded 25 percent of the market value of the structure at the time of each flood loss.
(d) In addition to the current claim, the NFIP must have paid the previous qualifying claim, and the State or community must have a cumulative, substantial damage provision or repetitive loss provision in its floodplain management law or
Substantial damage structure is a structure that has had flood damage in which the cost to repair equals or exceeds 50 percent of the market value of the structure at the time of the flood. The State or community must have a substantial damage provision in its floodplain management law or ordinance being enforced against the structure.

@Barb. I feel your pain and frustration. I am currently going thru the same problems with a total loss shore home which was destroyed by the Sandy storm.
Since this is a State waterway have you tried contacting the State as opposed to the town regarding their floodplain management program or ordinances? Best of luck to you and your neighbors.

Hello Skitch & Bill O'Connor....We do have ICC coverage on our flood policy. I have submitted every piece of info requested by our carrier for a ICC Claim. The issue is the township and whether or not we have repetitive loss. If we don't have repetitive loss then 1 flood's damage must be equal to 50% or more of structures assessed value. Since we are well over assessed its almost impossible to reach that a punt in 1 flood. However in 2011 we flooded out in April and then again in Aug with Hurricane Irene. These 2 floods damages are equaled to more than 50% of the assessed value. So far I have spoken with many officials within the township and they never heard of repetitive loss.
I have spoke with State Emergency Management, they direct me back to FEMA. Talk with FEMA and they refer me back to State of Emergency Management. We have been given the run around for about 1 1/2 years already.

@Ric...we had major flooding 1 time in 2005 which was prior to The Shoppes at Cinnaminson's Construction. Since the center went up we have had 4 MAJOR floods. The mall has definitely made things worse and much more frequent.

Our home was also put within FEMA'S SRL (Severe Repetitive Loss) category

@Christina...so we definitely DO NOT have repetitive loss? As for the $30,000 you have to have ICC Coverage with your flood insurance company. It's a extra few hundred dollars a year additional to your regular flood policy. The $30,000 comes directly from your Flood carrier. This doesn't cost the township a penny.

@angry - perhaps you should type your comment and then wait for a few minutes, and then take out some of the venom. You might find it easier to get your point across and maybe we would be able to take you seriously.

Barb, Some type of program is in place somewhere because you are able to get and keep your flood insurance thru the NFIP. It either has to be at the state level or the township level. My guess would be the township level and perhaps it dates way back and the current twsp officials are unaware of it. In addition are you aware that there are new advisory base flood elevation maps that will be going into effect in 2013? Stafford township just adopted the maps in order to stay in the NFIP program. They adopted them early because of the new rebuilding going on. These maps tell you how high you have to raise your home in order to conform. Since FEMA and the NFIP are broke you may find that if you do not raise your home to conform to the new flood elevations that will be adopted sometime in 2013 you will not be able to obtain flood insurance any longer and/or if you are able to get the insurance your premuims will be sky high you if you don't raise. This is one of the reasons why i have to bulldoze my house and raise it 10' on pilings. Granted this is what is going on in the shore areas. I have absolutely no idea what is going on anywhere else. It is the 100 yr flood map that was revised and was to go into effect in 2013. All of this was taking place even before the Sandy storm hit. Towns are adopting the maps a little earlier than originally planned. Have you checked out the FEMA web site recently to see if your area will be affected? You should before anything else.

Skitch...after the 2 huge floods we were through in 2011 a few months apart we went ahead and made 2 large loans. Nov of 2011 we started to raise our home, we went up 6' . The township officials are well aware of this as we had to hire engineers, architects..etc in order to obtain a building permit. We were told b4 we raised the home that since we have ICC on our flood policy that we would be reimbursed $30,000 towards the total bill. We spent about $72,000 to have this completed..NOT including the newly stamped concrete patio and cedar deck we lost in order for the equipment needed to lift home could be set in place. At this time we continued to pay our mortgage, pay for 11 weeks of hotel living as well as kennel fee's to keep our dog. Flood insurance pays ZERO $ for this. Many people THINK it's like Homeowners Insurance and those things are paid for...that thinking is absolutely 100% WRONG! This is our issue with the township! They put us through the wringer getting all the approvals in order. The construction office as well as zoning has known about this since Sept/Oct of 2011.
Christina just stated she asked the question if we have repetitive loss and NO is the answer she received. Well I been asking that very same ? Along with my insurance agent who requested info from the township office. I was copied on that request and after many attempts in asking we finally received a reply Jan of this year, a few weeks ago.

How can this be? In order for us to submit a ICC claim we had to gather lots of info as well as receipts. Part of that Info was a letter from The Construction Office that stated our home received significant damage from flooding. It gave info & amounts for the 2 Combined floods of 2011. They were well aware that our Flood Carrier was the one requesting this info. I really can go on & on for days about all of this as well as supply a huge basket full of info received from many different parties.
It's sad to say but I believe bulldozing your home is the way to go. As we spent all this $$ but had to put flood vents in that MUST sit within 12 inches from the outside ground. So we still get flooded...we filled in the old crawl space(well we were FORCED to do so) layer down a cement salad with trail around perimeter taking the water to a corner sumo pump. But our entire home, all 4 walls gets surrounded by water so in order for pump to work water has to recede from the exterior. It's a Lose Lose situation!

Winding Lane and Wedgewood Lane residents were concerned about the Lutheran Home construction flooding them out. They just wanted guarantees that they wouldn't be, OR they would be covered if it did happen. Where they bought their homes would not be their fault, as the residents along the river getting flooded by the Harbour construction is not their fault. The residents being flooded more from the new Shoppes knew what they were getting into, but now it's worse and not their fault. The Township continues to grow, but safeguards are not put in place, and the township could really not care less. Those who lives in those areas are a very small percentage, and when it comes to footing the bill, you are a minority and the other residents will not be on your side. Twp Officials know this all too well, so when they propose new, or more construction in your area, better speak up and freak out before it's too late.

Muddy Waters.. Why the homes near The Shoppes knew what they were getting into? We purchased here almost 10 yrs ago, you are MISINFORMED! Those residents will NEVER get guarantees. The Twshp will not take accountability of anything related to flooding.

We have lived in Cinnaminson since 1976, and there has always been flooding along the Pennsauken Creek. A number of years ago I recall hearing that there had been a flood control device in the creek, but that it had deteriorated and would need to be replaced. The township committee discussed it, but it never happened. For a number of years in the late 80s and 90s, the flooding seemed to almost go away- you never saw the barricades any more. That was a fairly dry period everywhere in south Jersey, but the last few years have become wetter, so I am not at all surprised that the flooding has gotten worse. It would not surprise me to hear that The Shoppes of Cinnaminson may be adding to the problem. When the shopping center was rebuilt, they added a large section on the far end to the paved area. This used to be a patch of woodland/ bird sanctuary, but the trees were removed and the ground paved over, so now that water has nowhere to go. The township could have insisted on semi-permeable pavement and/or a retention basin, but they did not do so. Semi-permeable pavement is more expensive and does not last as long, but it does allow water to soak through. Many states now require it for new construction of parking lots to prevent flooding problems. I hope those of you who live in the flooding areas get some help!

Thank you Ruth Mays.., I am hoping that a large group of people that are affected make the township step up and do what's right. Before the Shoppes were built word around here was that construction wouldn't begin until some sort of drainage system was in place. I just heard this from neighbors so I am not sure who said what. One thing I do know is that it definitely has made things worse.

Ric..YES! That's exactly correct. However I have been told by the township that this is not the case. It doesn't take a genius to look at the height difference and to know water flows downward.

Thank you Ric...I will be creating some fliers and dropping them off to the residents affected. I want as many people possible to attend the Feb 3rd meeting. Depending upon what plan this township comes up with, if any at all...I will look into obtaining council.

I would like to thank everyone for his or her support as well as guidance. I understand the terms of a flood zone; however, when it is flooding with minimal to no rain there is something wrong. I am asking the township for their help and support their residents to reach out to the state. They have contacts and engineers they work with and have previously done. I am learning a lot from speaking with my neighbors seeing as I am new to the neighborhood and the various things that have or have not been done to help us.
There have been many changes over the past years that do not take the residents into consideration; including the shops and Cinnaminson Harbor as previously mentioned. From my understanding both have affected residents greatly.
Barb, I look forward to meeting you at the next township meeting and working towards getting us and our neighbors the help we need.
I have spoken to many of my neighbors and all are in agreement something needs done. Please come out and support us at the next township meeting!

Shannon.. I will be there! I have tons of info and have learned a whole lot in the past year & a half. The township may not be the ONLY ones to blame but they are definitely a huge part of the problem. Today I received my real estate tax assessment which is of course way way off. We also need to address this issue as well. My home was built in the late 50's and we pay more than homes up the street that are 6 yrs old.
I look forward to meeting you as well as others that are affected.

Correction ... Feb 4 th meeting.

i was at the meetings when the residents near the Harbour were complaining. The Twp Committee just shrugged their shoulders. I was at the meeting where the Winding Lane and Wedgewood residents were explaining their fears about the Lutheran Home construction, the Twp Committee again just shrugged their shoulders. Take Rics advice, and get a lawyer. But residents beware, Parker McCay will be salivating at their bill to the township to fight you... And then they can contibute some back to the Cinnaminson GOP and they will all be happy.

Good Morning. I live at the corner of Jefferson and Calhoun and I can tell you this with absolute certainty. The Waters at their highest reached the base of my deck. Since the Shoppes of Cinnaminson have been completed (and I do like going there) I now have flood waters that have wrapped around my home and reached the upper deck and the top step out front. The portable pump was of no use because 75 feet of hose was just pumping the water back in to itself. I don't have the psychic ability to see in to the future, so anyone telling me I knew what I was buying when I moved in is wrong, I had no idea they would build the Shopping Center and no idea it would have the effect it is having on us.I will attend the meeting to see what can be done to correct the issue.

It is kind of funny, how the clueless residents of this town support this Township Committee, but then when something affects them directly, they cone to realize that this committee is only out for themselves and couldn't care less about the residents of this town. Just take a look at who runs this town, Twp Administrator from Evesham(?). Twp Director of Public Safety from Mercer County. Twp Director of Public Works from Maple Shade, Twp Solicitor ?? And so on.... It's not like any of these individuals went to school here, ever lived here, or even knew where Cinnaminson was on a map, do you think when they leave after work that they give one thought about the town they just left. it's just a paycheck to them, which means they will do whatever they are told to do by those who hired them. The Cinnaminson Republicans (and NOT all Republicans!!) have finally completed their mission... To have control over every function in our township. Now, when you complain about flooding, or Scofflaws, or Police, or Public Works, or construction, housing, or whatever, THE COMMITTEE has final say over everything! Good luck Cinnaminson residents!

so vote them out of office....

Well I do know we have a Flood Plain Management Ordinance. After raising our home we were put through the ringer being told we needed a CO in order to move back in. Township saw it as New Construction in which it definitely was NOT! Township inspected and wrote a letter for me to give to my insurance company. Letter states that the house is now in substantial compliance with the Flood Plain Management Ordinance.

Nope...we have tankless so that didnt need to be altered. However gas lines needed to be extended as well as water pipes. Had to raise condenser and put in new electric service line...etc . There is much more involved than just lifting structure and adding to the foundation walls. I NEVER want to live through this ever again!

Mark... If you read EVERYTHING before ADDING your IGNORANCE you would see its happening to MANY in different areas of town!
Yup! I plan on suing the TOWN that sold land & allowed a Developer to build! Get your FACTS straight or Shut Up!

Matt K^ Thats directed to you! Mark was a typo

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You reap what you sow suckers! It's your responsibility if your yard floods, I suppose you bozo's also think we should be footing the bill for the billionaires houses that were destroyed in Sandy after they chose to buy waterfront property!

Wow! Where did all that meanness come from? Have you actually read the entire article or all of the comments, or looked for any objective information on your own? Or do you just jump in and attack when you see something to use as a springboard for some tangent from which you can spew your venom? And always from behind an alias, never using your real name or showing up at a twp meeting where you could have your opinion be a part of the public record. I would love to see you try to make the same comment in front of the committee! I don't very often agree with them or they with me, but we all know how to speak to one another with civility and common courtesy, and it is highly doubtful that your lack of manners would be tolerated by the committee or the people in attendance.

Rossy...your lack of intelligence shines in your comment. For all those that run their traps without reading NOBODY..oh please let me repeat that..NOBODY is asking the township for a penny. The township should be working with FEMA and other agencies representing its tax paying citizens. They find the time & manpower to apply for Grants but they do NOTHING about the Flooding! Oh and PLEASE stop hiding behind a phony screen name and a keyboard. Coward!

@Barb - I just heard from Christina that there is something about repetitive loss legislation on the agenda for Monday night's committee meeting. Hopefully, we'll get to see the agenda in time to read through it before we have to leave for the meeting. Rumor has it that they may have to actually move the meeting from the small conference room into the big room because of the number of people expected to attend. See you there!