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Fuel Costs Minimal for King's Car, Officials Say

Cinnaminson officials say the fuel costs are absorbed by more revenue from traffic tickets and court fees.

 

Cinnaminson’s public safety director will now be able to use his government-issued car to drive to and from work, and officials say the only cost associated with that is fuel.

At Monday night’s township committee meeting, members voted 3-1 (with one abstention) to allow Michael P. King to drive his work vehicle to Cinnaminson and back home. King already uses an unmarked former patrol car while working in Cinnaminson. Officials put the extra costs associated with driving to and from work at around $2,500 a year.

“It’s not a large sum of money that we’re talking about,” said Deputy Mayor Anthony Minniti.

King, who started in June 2011 as Cinnaminson’s public safety director, the police department’s top administrative position, commutes from Mercer County to the township each day. When King is needed elsewhere during the work day, he uses an unmarked car specifically for that purpose. Now, King will be able to take that unmarked car home and use it for other emergencies that occur off-hours. The car is already in use, insured and will not need updating, officials said.

It was Committeeman John Rooney, the township liaison to the police department, who suggested King have the car.

At Monday’s meeting, Rooney called the use of the car “appropriate.” Rooney declined further comment when reached Tuesday afternoon.

Initially, Minniti was against allowing King to have a take-home car but said he changed his mind after hearing Rooney and George Haeuber, interim township administrator.

“As a general rule, I am not a proponent of government-given vehicles," Minniti said. “The testimony given by George Haeuber that it’s typically done in other municipalities … leaned me in [a different] direction.”

Heubeur said it is “standard practice” for someone in King’s position to have a take-home car.

Moorestown employs a public safety director who drives a township car he can take home.

“What this comes down to is Director King already has a township-issued vehicle for use in daily operation and activities,” he said. “It is insured, is owned by the township and is part of our fleet. The only expense that you’re looking at is the fuel allowance.”

On Monday, Rooney said the fuel and maintenance costs would not exceed $5,000 a year. And if they did, he’d pay out of his own pocket, the committeeman said.

In fact, costs could be much lower. With King’s commute at about 40 miles roundtrip, that’s about $2,600 in fuel costs per year.

“I think $50 a week is a liberal amount on what his fuel would cost,” Minniti said. “He’s fueling at the township where we buy on a contract and it’s less than what you pay at the pumps.”

King is not compensated for the time he puts in during off-hours whether it’s a township committee meeting, a township event, a training session or an emergency call.

Although King is in a civilian position and cannot make arrests, officials said King needs to respond to emergencies as the head of the police department and as an emergency management official. On Monday, Rooney gave the example of an injured police officer or a hurricane, such as Irene last year.

King, along with every other township employee, does not get reimbursed for mileage.

Last year, township committee voted on a policy that would not allow any township employee to take home a car if they lived outside of a 10-mile radius, unless the committee voted for an exception.

This is that exception.

Regarding the 10-mile radius, Brauckman said, “It’s one of those things you do with great intentions.”

"You later realize that it may be limiting the effectiveness of someone like a 24/7 on-call department head," he added.

When candidates for public safety director were being interviewed last year, all were informed they would not receive a take-home car. However, Rooney made the case that King has “earned it” and has “turned the police department around” since he’s been there.

“As it played out, [Rooney] saw a need for it and that’s why he requested it to township committee,” Brauckmann said. “The committee agreed, I didn’t. It wasn’t my preference but that is the form of government we have and I respect the process.”

Brauckmann, who voted no to King having the take-home car, acknowleged that King has “exceeded our expectations” but said “there are a lot of people who exceed our expectations.”

Currently, township employees who are issued a car they can take home include police detectives, the township’s planning and zoning officer, and the director of public works/superintendent.

All of those employees live within a 10-mile radius, Brauckmann said. If they do not or they move, he added, they would have to drive a personal car to and from work.

“[King] is responsible for the police department,” Minniti said. “He’s at the top of their order. He did take the job understanding that it did not come with a car. He’s spending more time in the community, at community functions and responding to the community. He has every right to ask for a car. We looked at the merits of it and we made a decision accordingly.”

Minniti and Committeeman Ben Young voted yes, while Committeewoman Kathy Fitzpatrick abstained from the vote, saying she needed more information.

On Monday, Rooney said increased revenue—from traffic tickets and court fees—will offset the extra fuel costs. The police department accounts for about $8 million of the township’s $12 million budget.

Minniti said that in the end, he voted in favor of the request because "King has demonstrated that he is spending considerably more time involved in community activities both he and committee anticipated at the time he interviewed."

"If approving this request results in continued enhanced service to our residents, than I believe it is worth the cost," Minniti said. "Though I am not a fan of giving out township vehicles, I don’t see this as unreasonable. The cost is so small compared to the return we get in Director King."

  • Should Cinnaminson employees be allowed to drive township-owned cars to and from work?

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    • Yes, it allows them to perform their jobs more efficiently.
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    • No, it's unnecessary.
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Related Topics: Anthony Minniti, Cinnaminson Police Department, Cinnaminson Township committee, Don Brauckmann, and Michael P. King

JustALocalGuy

7:29 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Well, here's a couple of troubling comments:

"it’s typically done in other municipalities" - George Haeuber
"He has every right to ask for a car." - Minniti

Are you kidding me? Really?

This is ridiculous. You public-sector people have no clue and are so completely detached from reality. You're spending OUR money on frivolous nonsense! Unemployment is high and people are struggling, but yet you think spending MORE tax dollars is appropriate? Unbelievable. You people need a reality check. I hope you get it during the next election cycle.

In the real world, when you take a job somewhere far from where you live, you have a choice. You either move closer, so that your commuting expenses are smaller, or you suck it up. You don't get to ask your employer to pay for a commute that YOU chose to make.

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Nancy VanTwistern

10:00 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

The last paragraph of Justs post says it all!!

Don

8:06 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Being sure that our officials have the proper tools to do their jobs is important. The real problem here is the justification for financing. As the headline states,"Cinnaminson officials say the fuel costs are absorbed by more revenue from traffic tickets and court fees."
In his editorial in the July/August issue of AAA World, Berni Koch, AAA Mid-Atlantic President and Chief Executive Officer, elaborates on his headline "Traffic Enforcement Should Be About Safety, Not Revenue." One of the things he talks about in the editorial is red-light cameras, just the thing we are trying to have installed at certain traffic signals.
Mr. King doesn't need tax money.

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Sean McDonough

8:23 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Red light cameras are unconstitutional. Google it. They denied us the right to due process. It's been a solid and winning defense across the country. Just because they took a picture of the back of your car doesn't mean that you were driving. Again people just letting govt impose against our constitutional rights and we let them.

Now back to the topic. I have family in CPD. I'm always in favor of helping the department. But Mercer Co?? And $50 a week??? It's a V8 Police interceptor!!! $50 maybe every 3 days. I have a V8. I drive all highway. Every time I fil up its $60+ and it's usually more than once a week. I'd like the residents to call Rooneys bluff and make him cough up the overages. You have him on record

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Deborah Stevens

8:44 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I think you are correct in making Rooney pay up if it costs more than what he says it will be..but you know we'll never know the truth, and by the way, $2500.00 to me is a big deal...as a single parent..I have to penny pinch everything..Just keep spending our hard earned money on things that are unnecessary..Remember 2500.00 here, then 2500.00 there all starts to add up...

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John

12:09 pm on Sunday, October 7, 2012

Well Deborah, its just like this, our government, cinnaminson is ours, all they have to do is raise taxes to cover the penny pinching things that the everyday person has to do to survive....as far as tickets go, get rid of the police dept and let the public works dept issue the summons, they do it now for leaves, branches and other stuff out of schedule.....its all a joke, ever wonder why we have so many homes for sale in cinnaminson, one reason is the over pricing of the value of each house.....they do not use market prices, they make up there own, another tax hike...

Boss Hogg

9:09 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Let's not forget Rooney the committeeman last year who fought with the former chief over benefits? I remember him being arguing with the old chief: “times have changed and we can’t afford to give away these types of things anymore”, or “in the civilian sector we don’t get things like this anymore”. I’m no big fan of the old chief and think the new PSD is a far improvement but how is this fair! Oh how things have changed Mr. Flip Flop. If the cost exceeds $5,000….the committee better hold him to his words.

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taxpayer101

11:00 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I absolutely remember and i appreciate you bringing this up....i had forgot this but i am now re-calling it...this committee are all "grey area" people....i hope not one ever gets re-elected

JustALocalGuy

9:41 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

"Being sure that our officials have the proper tools to do their jobs is important."

King has his own car, which is all he needs to get to his job. Using a township vehicle during the course of his duties is fine, but giving him a car to commute is ridiculous.

And as for the red light cameras, they are a whole other can of worms. Traffic enforcement as a revenue center is a disgusting abuse of the populace.

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Elisha B

9:57 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Sit back and listen to all of this everyone, who is benefiting from this I ask, is the community at large or one individual? Was this in his original agreement when Mr. King was hired? Then ask yourself this question why would this suddenly be an issue?i have to agreen with several others on "the split vote" very convenient. Seems to me this is the fashion in which this Twp. uses to get what they want to pull the wool over our eyes. So the Mayor, Don voted "No" he would be stupid not to but they still all got what they truly wanted. One more question for you all~ why do you think it was a closed session? Do you see the trend here? I pray something miraculous happens in November.

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Boss Hogg

10:08 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Elisha, This was in the open part of the meeting. It had to be otherwise we wouldn't know as much as we do! Christina, is this correct?

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Christina Paciolla

10:48 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Yes Boss Hogg, you are correct. This was done in open public session—something like this couldn't even be voted on in closed session. And anyway, nobody is allowed in closed session.

Nancy VanTwistern

10:04 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I have a question........why is there a need for 'closed sessions'??? Shouldn't those who pay the taxes to 'run the town' be able to hear all the details?? Perhaps I'm just naive or dumb when it comes to 'local government' but still....................................

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Christina Paciolla

10:49 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Nancy, matters of litigation and personnel issues are discussed in closed session.

Ric

10:35 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Huh? Who were the officials who said "the only cost associated with that is fuel"? Isn't the township going to insure the vehicle when King uses it for his personal use? And will not the vehicle will need maintenance because of King's personal usage? My personal experiences with cars tell me it will. For example, the tires and brakes wear down a bit for every mile driven. The more you drive, the more wear and tear is put on the whole vehicle.

And Deputy Mayor Anthony Minniti said: “It’s not a large sum of money that we’re talking about.” Gee, how about all of us deduct $2500 from our property taxes since that is not a large sum of money? I would think those who approve township appropriations would have a better appreciation for property taxpayer’s money. Who do they think they are - the Cinnaminson Sewer Authority?

This is a perfect example why Cinnaminson needs to elect township council members from two parties and not straight republicans.

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Christina Paciolla

10:50 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Ric, as I have stated in this article and the first article—the car is already insured. It's already a part of the fleet. As far as maintenance goes, I'm not sure if this car is being regularly maintained anyway. That's something I did not ask.

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Ric

11:03 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Christina, thank you but you are wrong. The insurer will factor in King's usage of the car for personal use in pricing the policy. I do not know about you but my insurer sets my rates based on total miles my car is driven. And my experience with insuring company vehicles tells me the same.
And thank you for your comment about maintenance but you are wrong. The more a vehicle is used the more wear and tear is put on the car. Consequently more maintenance it will need. There is no car on the road that does not require maintenance the more it is driven.

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Christina Paciolla

11:09 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

The car is already insured. If the township accrues additional insurance costs, I didn't mention that because I didn't ask it. Maybe that's something a committee person would like to answer here or maybe you can find out by calling.

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Alison

11:52 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I agree with Ric! The more you drive the car, the more things like tires and brakes wear. It's a simple fact. I'm sure Mr. King is going to expect that the twp. pick up the maintenance cost since the car belongs to the twp. Just becasue we have a garage and can maintain it in the twp. doesn't mean it doesn't cost the tax payers anything!

And the $50.00 a week for gas? WAY under estimated!

This reward for a job well done (how do we even measure that?) is going to cost the tax payers much more than a pat on the back would have, that's for sure! There are people who work hard at their jobs every day who haven't had salary raises or performance bonuses for years and our elected leaders think it's appropriate to hand out a vehicle and gas allowance to a twp. employee for just doing his job.

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Nancy VanTwistern

2:15 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I'd sure like my taxes reduced!! It wouldn't have to be a lot...just abouit $ 2,500.00...a mere pittance...............................

Ellie A.

10:52 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

After this new article, I'm not sure where I stand on this topic. I just don't think there is enough justification. It says above that Mr. Rooney declined to comment to the Patch? Christina, I have never really seen that in articles before. Did anyone else decline to comment to the Patch?

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Christina Paciolla

11:00 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Ellie,
Committeeman Rooney is the liaison to the police department therefore he was the one asking township committee for the car for Director King. He was called for comment, spoken to, but declined to speak. Since his comment is important in the story, I noted to my readers that he was reached but did not provide comment. No one else was reached and/or declined.

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Ellie A.

11:42 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Thank you Christine. I understand now and I do recall reading that in newspapers that I look at.
I think the residents deserve to hear from Mr. Rooney. Not everyone can go to township council meetings so he should do his due dilligence and speak to the press.

JustALocalGuy

11:01 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Insurance costs vary by yearly vehicle miles driven, and whether it is being maintained now or not, it will need tires, oil changes, brakes and other maintenance more frequently due to the excess mileage King will put on the car with his personal use.

This is a waste at taxpayer expense, plain and simple. Every dollar that the government has, WE gave them. Never forget that. And playing the "oh, this is just ticket revenue" shell game is not going to cut it. That ticket revenue should be used to offset operating costs, NOT to attempt to justify increasing expenditures.

Again, you politicians just don't get it. And you sheep who vote for these people need to remember this when its time to vote. Quit electing fake conservatives. If you want tax and spend, start voting Democrat, so at least you won't have the right to act surprised when your government wastes your hard earned money.

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Ray Budden

11:25 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Fuel is just one cost associated. Wear and tear over an additional 200 miles a week, that is an extra 10,400 miles a year. That vehicle will need to replaced how much sooner as a result. I disagree with this decision, personal vehicles are used to get to and from your job, while public vehicles are used at work. This is a poor decision with taxpayer money. One additional note, and the mothers out there will smile at this one, "Just because Moorestown is jumping off a bridge, that doesn't mean you should do it.", of course my Mom would sub in a friend's name to make the point to me when I was growing up. Just because someone else is doing it doesn't make it right. The township committee was elected to look after our interests, and I cannot say they did so in this case. Using a one year track record to determine an additional $5,000 expense, not well thought out in my mind, but I am just one voter I suppose.

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Joseph Gross

11:26 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

If there are "extra" vehicles in the fleet, they should be disposed of. No one should have a vehicle given to them for personal use. Period.

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Ed Jenkins

11:37 am on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Totally ridiculous, the cost of fuel, tires, brakes, oil changes, and having to replace the vehicle once it hits a certain mileage, along with increased insurance should all be factored in.... If you live in Mercer County and work in Cinnaminson then more than likely it is worth it to make the drive, which means, you should use your personal vehicle to and from work.... Bad call by this committee.... Is this justification to issue more summons now that obviously if more tickets are given out more trophies are given out as well ????

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Bull Pitt

1:06 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Why are there now more tickets with less officers? Are these officers now more motivated by Mr. King, or is it simply a case of mandating production, which translates to a QUOTA. I also understand that the fancy new plate reader is producing a high rate of tickets. Now by mandating production, we get more revenue, and we give that extra revenue to the person who is mandating tickets. Anyone else see a problem here? Both legally, ethically and morally??

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Mark

1:47 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Since the decision has been made to give a car, I must ask, will this car along with the other entire unmarked township owned cars be labeled with at least the towns logo on the doors? I believe when the sewage authority mess came to light it was stated by one of the committee members that all township owned vehicles would have to townships name on them. So as of this time, their is an unmarked police director car, unmarked fire chief car, unmarked zoning officer car and unmarked building inspector car? I really am not surprised though. I guess we will be having a sewage authority debacle again with all these unmarked cars running all over the place

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dajoepa75

2:00 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

You're right. If the township vehicles will be way outside of the local area and they are not somehow marked how is that any different than the township backhoe found up in the Poconos. No markings these vehicles could go anywhere without detection.

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Nancy VanTwistern

2:18 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Sounds reasonable, having the township cars marked somehow...after all, our taxes pay for them and their maintenance

Dumbo the Elephant

2:34 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Hello people wake up! No car means no car! Anyway you try and spin this it's a big NEGATIVE to the people of this town. 40 miles with all the lights on 130 you think it's going to be how much gas? What a joke, just like this Committiee!

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Donkey Kong

3:04 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Christina, this article does not mention what kind of car he will be given. He was using an older Crown Vic, however, now there is a brand new Dodge Charger (with a Hemi I believe) parked there. Please advise.

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Christina Paciolla

3:06 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Donkey Kong,
I was told—and I reported above—that the same car Director King uses now for his day-to-day business is the one he will use to take home. The new Chargers are patrol cars, as far as I know. They are not unmarked vehicles. Again, as far as I know.

Christina Paciolla

3:08 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I know everyone has lots of questions and I'm am answering them if they are directed right at me, or if I can answer something that will help with the story.

Remember, the township committee meets every first and third Monday of the month in open, public meetings where the agendas are made available to the public the Friday afternoon before. The public comment portion of those meetings is where a lot of these questions can be answered.

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michael kearney

3:21 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Christina, is Mr. Rooney a Cinnaminson Police person?

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Christina Paciolla

3:26 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Michael,
No. John Rooney is a Cinnaminson Township committeeman. He is the director of public safety, which is not to be confused with the public safety director, who is Michael P. King. Rooney's title of director of public safety basically means he's the public safety liaison from township committee. Everybody has a department they oversee. Mayor Don Brauckmann's is parks and recreation, Deputy Mayor Minniti's is economic development, Committeeman Young is public works and Committeewoman Fitzpatrick is administration.

Donkey Kong

3:26 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Christina thank you, however, this committee is famous for pulling things like this. Could you please ask them and let everyone here know. We are all very curious. The difference between the two vehicles is huge.

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Christina Paciolla

3:32 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Donkey, I did already ask and I'm confident in my reporting. As I said, I reported that King's take-home car will be the same car he uses now. I suggest if you have further questions, you ask them of the entire township committee or Mr. Rooney himself at the next township meeting.

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michael kearney

12:04 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Christina: Thanks for the reply. Is Patrolman Francis Rooney any relation to Committee Person John Rooney?

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Christina Paciolla

12:06 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012

Michael,
I do not know the answer to that question.

Dumbo the Elephant

3:31 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Rooney is a civilian handing out 'OUR" hard earned tax dollars!

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Donkey Kong

3:41 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Well thanks Christina, but I am not confident in your reporting. If I was a professional journalist as you claim to be, I would make that call immediately and find out the truth, not ask my reading public to do my work for me. He is and was driving a used Crown Vic. There is a huge difference between that and a brand new Dodge Charger with a Hemi V8 engine.

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Christina Paciolla

3:48 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I don't "claim to be" a professional journalist, I am one. If you'd like to check out my resume, New Jersey Press Association awards or maybe my work from several other new organizations, I'd be happy to provide that for you; I got the time.

The thing is, you're asking a reporter to do your work for you. I reported that Director King's take-home car will be the same unmarked car he has been using during the work day. If that's a used Crown Victoria, then that's a used Crown Victoria.

Nowhere did I say he was going to be driving a brand new Charger. I think it was you who said that.

Now if you have further questions that are obviously for someone at the township level and not an independent news reporter, I suggest you direct them accordingly. Or, you may email me with any personal questions you may have.

Thank you.

Donkey Kong

3:45 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Perhaps Mrs Fitzpatrick asked the question, hence, the not enough information abstention.

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Billy Pilgrim

4:49 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Something's got you riled up Donkey Kong. You are asking a lot of leading questions. Do you know something we don't? From what I can flesh out, a worker is getting the benefits of a township car. The car will be paid for by our tax dollars. The committee voted on it and approved it.
I can infer that King seems to be a good worker and has the respect of our committee and police force. The committee vote seemed wishy washy. How much more diabolical can it be? At worst, the citizens of Cinnaminson are shelling out money so the man can drive to and from work plus maintenance on the vehicle/depreciation. Whether it's a V8 Hemi Charger, a Crown Vic, or a Toyota Prius seems immaterial to me. Especially since a cap was given.
FYI Dodge Charger Interceptor V8 Hemi = 25 mpg
Crown Vic Interceptor V8 Single Overhead Camshaft = 16 City 22 Highway mpg Source = LMGTFY.com

Richard

5:24 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I am glad Mr Minitti thinks $2500 isn't alot of money. This type of waste adds up quickly. $2500 is 25% of my tax bill which I could spend on my commute. Maybe Mr Minitti could pay for my gas or lower my taxes and let Mr King pay for his own gas.

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Donkey Kong

5:28 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Well yes BP, I don't appreciate being told one thing and then finding out it's not all on the level, which is par for this committee. Why not just come right out and tell Christina, and the public? If it's not that big of a deal, why hide it? I did make a call, and yes, he just received a brand new Dodge Charger, but it is only a V6. To me, that so called perk just went from 5 something thousand to the price of a brand new car, plus gas, maintenance, and depreciation, where an old Crown Vic was already in the fleet and being used by him. Perhaps this doesn't make a difference to anyone else, but it's the lies and deception that tell the story. I'm sure Christina could have made the same call, wasn't very hard, I guess she didn't really want to know the answer, or was told not to tell.

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Christina Paciolla

5:42 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Donkey—just as I attribute my information to sources, who is your source for that information?

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John

12:25 pm on Sunday, October 7, 2012

Hey somebody has to be corrected on this 25 mpg thing, a HEMI does not get 25 mpg unless U believe the EPA on the sticker because thats what it says...who would put a V6 in a charger and call it a hemi, no body....so stop making errors ok....thanks

Theresa brennen

6:04 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I think we can solve this problem at the next election,sounds like a done deal,the township committee has spoken,and we can't do anything about it,until election time and I'm sure they hope we forget about it, $2500.00 a small amount not to me I can't find a job.

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dajoepa75

6:32 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

I'm sure DK's info can be verified by a call to verify or refute. Especially with press credentials; can any of the Patch staff verify that. It certainly would be part of the article and for those residents who might be apprehensive to ask. It's an update on the article.

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Christina Paciolla

6:42 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Actually, I did make a phone call and learned of some new and different information and I will be writing another follow-up story. Since I have not yet interviewed anyone about it for a story, I will be doing so in the morning, so readers can expect another follow up either tomorrow afternoon or Friday morning. Thanks.

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lesanda

10:50 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

And I can assure you that the issued vehicle will also be used for personal use in Mercer County. Like trips to the super market, the drug store, the local bank and to the physician. Who's to know? We are all aware that the Riverline was purposely created to provide transportation between Mercer County and Camden County with stops in Burlington County. Our Committeemen have been in office too long . The feeling pervades among them. What the hell , we can do anything we want . They'll vote us back in anyway.

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Bill O'Connor

10:57 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Christina and the PATCH provide stories that they are important to Cinnaminson residents. They are the only media source for consistently covering Township issues. While the Township shows tapes of their meetings, we only see the end product of their deliberations held at Executive session. I believe the PATCH tries to provide fair coverage. When as a reporter, you take things at face value with our local elected officials, you have a good chance of getting burnt. Christina and the PATCH do provde an insight as to what is going with OUR Township. While many of you voice your concerns and opinions on this forum, you need to follow through with your opposing opinions and points of view. It is time for the concerned readers on this site to consider other means of making a difference. While it is too late for anyone to oppose the Republican candidates running for Township Committee in 2012, it isn't too early to start considering a run for local office in 2013. And yes it does appear it was an orchestrated vote on this issue.

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Christina Paciolla

11:15 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Thank you very much, Bill. I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for being a great reader and contribuer to Cinnaminson Patch.

Donkey Kong

11:14 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Lol, she made a call and got new information? Has the information changed? I doubt it. They were caught in their lies again and basically had to confess. I can hardly wait for the spin on this new story. Christina, you cannot be happy with these people and the lies they tell you, and the way they use you to distribute information to the residents of this town.

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Christina Paciolla

11:19 pm on Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Donkey Kong—I'm not really sure what you're trying to prove here so I'll just respond to this last comment, then I'm no longer commenting on this subject.

I do follow-ups with each story I post and of course, this follow-up was inevitable. No one "distributes information" to me. This issue was talked about in open session and I decided to write the first story about it. The second story was a follow-up after talking to people one-on-one the next day and my third will be the same. I found out more information this evening and will another story.

I'm not really sure you understand how a newspaper works. I'm happy as long as I've interviewed well and wrote a cohesive story with attributions to the facts I'm given. That is how every reporter and media outlet works.

You can stay tuned for the third story in this series and form your own opinion but it sounds to me you know a litte more than the average person—and maybe even more than I do.

Feel free to call or email me with anything you have. Remember, we can always chat off the record and I'm obligated to protect my sources if need be.

Have a good night.

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Boss Hogg

9:15 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

Gotta love the way Donkey makes a call and gets an immediate answer. What number did you use may I ask? Hell, with our downsized police force and no dispatchers the last time I had a question and went to the police building I had to talk to a box to who knows who and then had to wait 10 minutes for a uniform to show up. And getting someone in that building to answer the phone, forget about it! Mr. Donkey, you are very much an insider either currently working for the police or retired. Way too much venom in your writing but hey, whatever! Your close ties uncovered the new vehicle thing so good for you and us. Personally, I think both Christina and some on this committee were intentionally misled by the person making this request. Maybe this is why Mr. Rooney is refusing to comment.

Shakingmyheadatyouall

12:38 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

I hear more and more opinions about how the township should be run an how you all have the answers but yet you sit behind your computer and type away most not knowing a clue about what the truth is and running with other peoples responses on here. Whatever the truth is I see people here trying to run a government not a business. I see a difference in the service in this town for the better. I see the new director seems to be doing a great job with our police department. I recently read an article about how production is up by the men and woman that protect this town and all the community oriented services they have offered to our residents. I have read about numerous programs offered and put on by the police department including dare day, national night out and a reading program for our kids. I don't recall these programs ever offered before. People keep writing that he is getting a car for personal use. He is the head of the police department and I'm sure he is on-call 24 hours a day in case of an emergency in the town. I believe they stated it was to be used for department business only. I like the rocket scientist's great idea and question as to why they don't have stickers on all the cars to identify them. Well they are undercover police cars, hence the "undercover" part. Make them slap a police sticker on it so the criminals know who they are. That's great crime prevention! I think you'd do a great job at runnin the town. Wow ! Shaking my head!

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Deborah Stevens

8:59 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

No one is saying anything about the job the new director or police are doing. It is plain and simple, the commitee did something alot of us feel was very wrong. As they told us before in these tuff times we have to tighten our belt, as our home values go down taxes go up they spend money like its nothing, on things such as a sledding hill and now an unecessary vehicle..and let me tell you how many times they catch people using there work vehicle for personal use. As far as the director doing a great job, that's what he gets a salary for, just like the rest of.

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Ric

10:26 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

Gee, extremely unbiased reader, you say King is walking barefoot on water but where is your proof? Oh, some article your read somewhere some time ago. Who wrote that article, perhaps Mr. King himself or perhaps one of his subordinates or political lackeys?
But still the question is not whether or not Mr. King is competent in his position. No one is debating that. The question is does he deserve a car paid for by the taxpayers of Cinnaminson? After the recent scandals of the Cinnaminson Sewer Authority a resounding number of people are saying no. He accepted that position without a car. What is the next gift for him - a chauffeur driven limousine? Now, that he has a car from the town who else or rather how many others will get a car?

Bowtie

7:53 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

Since Mr King lives so far away and we are buying him a car, why not just buy him a house in Cinnaminson? The home values are so low it might be cheaper...or give him one of the many vacant homes in town.

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John

2:08 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Thats a good one Bowtie, your right about vacant properties.....Why not have the dept of public works cut the lawns of those vacant lots and besides that why not put a true value on the properties.....I do not know who does the assessing but the current market value are about 50,000 per home under the assessed value that we pay our taxes on....now who does that.....supposedly burlington county reduced its tax rate to the towns but I would venture to guess OUR TAXES WILL GO UP.....enjoy
the value of the inflated houses.....

Scratching my head

8:26 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

Apparently you don't grab the concept that Mr King is not a Police officer much less undercover.Great he's doing a supurb job well isn't that what he was hired to do? So negotiate a car when his term is up perhaps? Don't give a $2500/year + perk just for doing your job in these times of budget trimming. The main issue at hand here is the lies again from the TWP. they say one thing and do another, is it an older patrol car like they claim or is it the brand new Charger? My bet is it is the Charger. And the Split vote that seems like another lie, Scratching my head!

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Jason Furrer

10:47 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

I'd still like to know if his vehicle is equipped with emergency lights and sirens. Or, if indeed its a new vehicle, will it be outfitted with there's "bells and whistles"? Although I agree that Mr. King is doing an exceptional job with the PD, he is NOT A POLICE OFFICER! His is a civilian administrator.

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Jason Furrer

10:56 am on Thursday, August 9, 2012

As for shakingmyheadatyouall's comment about "undercover" cars, they mine as well be marked. Usually the huge spotlight in the corner of the windshield, ginormous strobe lights stuck on the back of the side view mirrors, municipal liscense plates, and super dark tinted windows that is illegal for civilian use gives them away.

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John M Walker

1:04 pm on Thursday, August 9, 2012

I have a totally parallel (and wholly unimportant) take on this article...
>> Minniti said. “The testimony … leaned me in [a different] direction.” <<
I am fairly certain that this was an incorrect usage of the verb "leaned" --- not by Ms Paciolla but but Mr Minniti.

One can "lean" an air-fuel mixture and a supply chain, too, but one is not "leaned" to make a counter intuitive decision.

Just my $ .02 worth!

: )

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Carol B

3:55 pm on Thursday, August 9, 2012

I am sitting on the edge of my seat,, is it a Spiffy New Charger or the Vintage Patrol car? Inquiring minds want to know!!! What's the exciting twist!!,,

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