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Man Charged in Sewerage Authority Scandal Dies in Accident

Joseph Lehman was killed in a motorcycle crash in Cherry Hill.

 

A Cinnaminson man died in a motorcycle accident Oct. 13 after his bike tipped over and slid on a Cherry Hill road, officials said.

Joseph Lehman, 27, was riding a motorcycle on North Park Drive near the Crowne Plaza Hotel, according to Jason Laughlin, spokesman for the Camden County Prosecutor's Office.

The road ends and Lehman tried unsuccessfully to turn his bike. He and the bike slid into the woods.

No one was charged in the accident and no one else was involved.

Lehman made headlines in February when he was arrested and charged with theft and conspiracy to commit theft in the Cinnaminson Sewerage Authority scandal. Lehman, who was a subcontractor with the authority, was allegedly one of 10 men involved in a scheme in which more than $100,000 allegedly was stolen in public resources. His charges were among the less serious compared to the alleged co-conspirators.

Lehman's brothers Jeffrey and Shawn, and their father Joseph Jr., were also arrested and charged.

All are out on bail. The case is still pending presentation to a Burlington County grand jury.

Lehman is survived by his father Joseph J., his mother Cheryl (nee Elwell), his brothers Shawn and Jeff, his grandparents Jim and Billy Elwell and the late Joe and Dorothy Lehman.

He is also survived by aunts and uncles Jim and Chris Elwell, Michael and Apple Elwell, Kathy and Mike Krawczyk, Jim and Shirly Lehman; and his cousins Hailey, Sara, Christan, Jim, Jenny, Melissa, Kelly and Michael.

His obituary in part reads:

Known as JB or Joe, he was a graduate of Cinnaminson High School. JB attended Pennco Tech and became a mechanic. He owned his own business, Superior Engine Demands. JB loved cars, motorcycles and ATVs. He was a member of the National Rifle Association. 

Services for Lehman will be held Thursday, Oct. 18, from 6 to 9 p.m. at Snover/Givnish. Funeral mass will be held at 10:30 a.m., Friday, Oct. 19, at St. Charles Borromeo.

Lehman has a memorial page on the Snover/Givnish website.

Related Topics: Cinnaminson Sewerage Authority Scandal, Joseph Lehman, and Motorcycle Accident

Rebecca Abrams

6:17 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

I really think this is in really poor taste. This man died, he's someone's son, grandson, etc. , was it really necessary to mention his connection to the sewage authority corruption?

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Christina Paciolla

6:21 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Rebecca,

We understand your concern and are happy to try to make some sense of the decision. We would be doing a disservice if we had not mentioned the connection. It was the biggest story in Cinnaminson this year and very heavily publicized here on Patch and throughout the Delaware Valley.

We will not keep our readers guessing and we will present all the facts and give full disclosure.

Having said that, we are too saddened by losing one of our own and our thoughts are with the family and friends of Joseph Lehman.

If you have further questions or concerns, you may contact me at christina.paciolla@patch.com.

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dajoepa75

6:53 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Sorry Christina, on this point, you are wrong. The young man never had his day in court. And, it was not necessary to highlight the whole family. Notice no research on any positives this young man's life may have held. Check the guestbook; maybe you could counter with some personal notes. This is primarily an obituary notice isn't it?

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Kaitlin

12:16 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I couldnt agree more, i know him and his family. As a family they are going through a rough time as it is. You had no buisness associating his death with the past issues. He should have been displayed respectfully. Your article was very disrepectful in regaurds to JB

RIP JOE

Dean Poinsett

6:24 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

It is a shame that his death and sewage authority corruption are even in the same article. Joe was a great guy through school and after. Best wishes to family and friends.

Bowtie

6:37 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Keeping both issues seperate and apart, its a shame to lose such a young life. My condolences go out to his family.

dajoepa75

6:53 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

The connection and the charges don't really matter at this point, do they? Sometimes the details no longer matter, especially these. And, they were, after all charges only. My condolences to the Lehman family on the loss of your son.

Bull Pitt

6:58 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

The title should have been, "young Cinnaminson resident dies in tragic accident". Then perhaps the story could contain the alleged charges. The chosen title is pathetic! Fortunately, it seems your readers have more class than your editors.

Christina Paciolla

7:00 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

I'm sorry but I am not wrong. Mr. Lehman had been charged and the case is pending grand jury—I mentioned both of those things. These are only allegations and I also mentioned that. Yes, it does read as an obituary because that is what was published by the funeral home with the OK from the family. That's exactly what it is.

We apologize if the tone of the news item is a negative one for some of our readers. Again, we practice full disclosure and remain completely unbiased. We give our readers the full story—negative or positive. That is why, Bull Pitt, I would not have run a headline like that.

This issue will not be debated any further. And if everyone wants to keep this about the man himself, then keep the comments to that. If you wish to speak with me personally, you can email me at christina.paciolla@patch.com. You may contact our regional editor at tim.zatz@patch.com if you have further concerns.

Again, our thoughts are with the family and friends of the deceased.

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dajoepa75

7:18 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Christina, being the editor doesn't mean you are always right. "Pride goes before the fall." There are times when common decency comes before a "story". The story is somewhere on this site. It was not necessary to headline with the charges instead of his death. Again, the charges were just that. Patch is a small town newspaper; we don't need the sensationalism we get from the larger news sources. That's what makes it a "town" newspaper. You have latitude and editorial discretion. You didn't use it here.

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John

10:56 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Christina,

You've done nothing wrong here.

Steven Wanicur

7:18 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Christina--- you are not taking criticism well at all --- we are the readers and can give comments-- you are the pro and now want to dictate what we can comment on -- even though comments are in good taste? I agree with the dissent-- not ALL the news needs to be presented--- and you also had to mention the family- which is already grieving-- was involved?

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Christina Paciolla

7:21 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Steven,
You are most definitely allowed to give your comments and I welcome them. However, I disagree with you saying "not ALL the news needs to be presented." We are a professional news organization and all the news must be presented to remain completely fair, balanced, unbiased and in full disclosure. Thank you for your comment.

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dajoepa75

7:33 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Christina, here's the news story "Cinnaminson man dies in motorcycle accident:". It does not have to be on the breaking news; happened 4 days ago. You could have mentioned the charges at the end of the story; full disclosure. However, to headline the charges instead of his death is not only in poor taste it is poor journalism. The reason for the story was the young man's death; that's the headline. Without that, no story to rehash.

Christa

7:18 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

This is wrong to say these both together! He died let him have some respect!! R.I.P joe!

Steven Wanicur

7:18 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

It is interesting that you now want to dictate the comments because they are against your decision?

Michelle

7:18 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

I agree with the previous comments. I don't know this young man or his family, but this is just heartless.

Bruce

7:44 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

maybe it's karma...Think about his father and brothers and what THEY are now living with. It doesn't get much worse than loosing your son, or brother.

Colleen

8:09 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

You are completely out of line.. You state yourself that this is an obituary, then write an obituary with respect to the man's life and his family. This man's chargers have nothing to do with his death. Very heartless of you to put a story out there like this when the family has not even buried their son yet. Let the family grieve. They've been through enough.

Alyssa M

8:09 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

"The patch" is merely a blog. Christina, this article you've presented to the public was clearly written in poor taste; an article with a headline controversial enough to aggravate friends and family of the deceased. It seems as though you've only presented Joesephs charges in this article to gain attention to make a name for yourself within our community-- and a poor attempt at that. We, as readers, understand that published pieces need to be attention grabbing, however, using the death of a young man in attempt to boost your career is completely asinine. I truly hope that you learn from these comments and take your writing style into serious consideration. I highly doubt you would agree with the information that was presented if it were one of your own family members.

mruppert

8:09 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Thoughts and prayers to the Lehman family through this difficult time....and yes I agree with all the previous comments, it should of been listed seperate, the family is going thru enough pain losing a loved one.

Michael Giampaolo

8:09 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

it is horrible that you put j.b and the sewage authority in the same article so soon . i am very good friends with the lehmann family j.b was one of my very very good friends i think it is terrible that you chose to spite the family so soon with this article the guy just lost his life the family is going threw so much and now they have to look peice of trash article you wrote. lady you should be ashamed of yourself. all i have to say is i hope that you or your family never do anything wrong and end up in the news or paper because trust me that i will be making sure that there will be some horrible stuff written. have a nice night

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PEP

10:27 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

If you want your comment to be taken seriously, than you should probably not refer to the editor as "lady" and make threats towards her. It is more than ok to voice your opinions, but opinions should be voiced with respect, empathy and clarity.

tomas

8:09 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Since this person was in an ongoing grand jury indictment, it is 100% appropriate to include that information in this article. It is a terrible situation of course for all of his friends and family, that does not mean we can just ignore everything though. This is a news article, and nothing false has been printed here. If you do not enjoy reading the news, may I suggest disney.com or something more on the bright side.

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dajoepa75

8:36 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Tomas, the information regarding the man's arrest can be included in the article. Here's the problem. The primary purpose of the article, the headline is the death of a Cinnaminson man. The second issue is secondary. Without his unfortunate death there would be no article to write. The charges can be included in the article but the headline is the death of a township man. And it's not breaking news, it happened four days ago. The headline is sensationalism.

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Alyssa M

8:36 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

It's completely unnecessary to include someone's legal issues in an obituary. In case it slipped your mind, the definition of an obituary states that it is a notice of ones death in a newspaper that includes a brief biography of the deceased. Joseph did not succumb to a life of crime. People make mistakes, it's part of growing up and shapes us into the people we become today. Joseph was much more than the incident Christina refers to as a scandal. You, as well as everyone else who expresses similar opinions to your own, are entirely correct for wanting a complete story- however, you are incorrect for expecting the deceased's criminal history in his obituary.

Augustmom3

8:10 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Our heartfelt condolences to Mr. Lehman's family & friends on their loss. Christina was right to include his arrest in the article. It was a fact and one of the reasons people would know his name. We don't need any journalist deciding what we should or shouldn't know. They should include all the facts and let us draw our own conclusion. I want the whole story not a sugar-coated version. Unfortunately, pending charges were part of Mr. Lehman's story. May he rest in peace.

Rachael Ruppert

8:36 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

@Bruce Karma? really? what an awful and heartless thing to insinuate.. let the family grieve...

Monica Horner

8:53 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Absolute poor taste!!!! How horrible to tie his young death to charges that were against him!! I understand how maybe it would be mentioned, but including it in the headline??? Terrible, just terrible. The family is suffering. This surely just added to their pain. My condolences to his family.

Ryan Horner

9:13 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Bruce, perhaps you are a parent although by your comment I would guess not. To suggest that being charged with the crimes, publicly embarrassed (rightly so), and ultimately punished if found guilty, is not punishment enough, that "karma" would deem it necessary to take a son is deplorable. You have proven to the readers that you possess qualities that are scarey. Lack of human decency, intelligence, and education (LOOSING?) Way to go Bruce

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Tim Zatzariny Jr.

9:09 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Readers, I'm Christina's editor at Patch. I want you to know that Christina discussed this story and headline with me and another Patch editor before publishing them. Ultimately we decided that the charges against Mr. Lehman made him a public figure by default. In no way were we attempting to sensationalize his tragic death, but at the same time, we can't rewrite history and pretend the charges didn't exist. We extend our condolences to the Lehman family.

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Ryan Horner

9:30 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Tim,
I think what many people, including myself, have an issue with is the poor choice of a headline. Ultimately, that mistake was yours as the editor. One cannot deny why this name would ring a bell in all our heads as residents, however, you can not also deny
the headline was written to grab attention. The story is this young son, lifelong resident died in a very unfortunate accident. Im sure a headline could have been written similar to that drawing just as many readers AND of course the pending charges could be mentioned as an oh by the way readers may recognize his name as one of.... Not good taste, although I give you credit for falling on the sword. Chivalry is not dead after all.

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dajoepa75

9:39 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Ryan is right. The primary focus of this article was Mr. Lehman's death. Otherwise there would be no story at this time unless the sewer authority scandal resurfaced with new information. The opening sentence of the article encapsulates the story that follows. The death of this man is the primary article; the charges are secondary. The headline should reflect that. Just change the headline.

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Michelle

10:02 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Tim,
A public figure? That's a bit a stretch. Every death and crime in Cinnaminson is not reported on Patch. It's a shame that you would condone using this tragedy as a sensationalized headline. I can usually overlook Christina's poor grammar and spelling, but this is too disturbing. Town gossip does not equal a news story.

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PEP

10:27 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

A personal attack disguised as a comment? Really Michelle? Your can voice your opinion but integrity is lost when you say things like "I can usually overlook Christina's poor grammar and spelling". What does that accomplish besides self-gratification?
I'm afraid I am going to flag that as inappropriate.

Ric

9:43 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

It is a shame he died - so young - and especially since he will never see his day in court. My condolences go out to his family, his friends and all those who knew him. It is a tragedy. It must be a nightmare for his parents to lose a child. That is not right.

I also respect Patch's decision to print this story. Patch simply reports the news and this is certainly a newsworthy event.

Eamonn Deirdre Cullen

9:50 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Christina your headline IS WRONG,gutter journalism

Lamb Chop

11:38 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Christina, "ALL the news needs to be presented to remain completely fair and unbiased". Seems to me there was another comment from you over a month ago on another story that you were "going to investigate". If you are not biased, that story would already be written. Now go ahead and pretend you don't know what story we're talking about. Township Committee got your tongue?

Sara

11:42 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

Christina and Tim,

I am so embarrassed for you. I knew Joe very well, and he was a wonderful person who deserves a far better tribute than this. I absolutely understand why you included the allegations in the article, but to create a TITLE in such poor taste is simply inexcusable. Not only did he never have his day in court (innocent until proven guilty), but you are continuing to drag a good man's name through the mud, when instead you should simply be providing facts and letting his family/us who knew him continue to grieve. I have lost a tremendous amount of respect for this publication if this is what you deem appropriate. This is a small, close-knit community, and you did no one any favors by drawing attention to this headline the way you did. This was tactless - and clearly by the readers' responses you must recognize that you are in the wrong. An apology would have been much more appropriate than your poor attempt to justify your childish behavior. This is my first time ever commenting on a blog actually, but I just felt such anger immediately upon reading your headline and I needed to express it. Sensationalism at it's worst, you should both be very ashamed. I at least hope you take something positive away from this in the future and think before you act in your own interest.

lesanda

11:46 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012

The alleged criminal activity occurred in Feb. If the charges were presented to the grand jury in a timely fashion and adjudicated , the young man would be alive today. The real story is "why the delay" , why is the district attorney delaying things. Give them their day in court.

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tomas

9:11 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

THAT is definitely the real story here!

AMarie

9:12 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

The charges should have never been included in the headline. What was the primary reason for running the article? This young man's death. Were the charges related to his death or were they in any way, shape or form the reason this man died? No. It's one thing to include the charges in the article, but to go into detail about them when they were not the primary reason for the article was unnecessary.

Maria

9:11 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Christina,
The article and its tone are completely appropriate. You give neutral, full disclosure to your readers, which is your responsibility. If you had not mentioned the Cinnaminson Sewer Authority connection, your readers would have been commenting and wondering about the conncection.
You and you editor are correct. The comments so far have been emotionally written, not objectively.

MJOB

9:46 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Not in poor taste. Journalistically speaking, the inclusion of the sewage authority story was appropriate.

Rebecca Abrams

11:22 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

It wasn't just an inclusion, it was the headline. I don't agree with it being part of this at all, however it The Patch deemed it necessary to include it maybe it could have been more of a side note, not the headline to this article.

peanut

11:22 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

how come the lehman family is being taken down like heavy criminals and scum when readers only read what is told to them. Lehmans were not ring leaders and not the cause of tax payers losing 100,000. superintendants paul phillips and bill yannarella are being forgotten on the sewer athority scandel. what im saying is if you believe everything you read and hear i guess you all believe that life on earth is also ending soon. and christina you have false information on the accident with the bike skidding on the road. shame on you.

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Lauren Burgoon

11:24 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Peanut, The skidding information came from the Camden County Prosecutor's Office. We have no reason to think it's incorrect, but if you know differently, please let us know. Thanks.

Cinna

11:36 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Not only is the article uncalled for and inconsiderate to the family who is grieving over his loss, but to the friends and people he knew. What happened has absolutely nothing to do with the charges, and therefore they should be left out of this. Death is about remembering the person, not their faults. END OF STORY

Cinna

11:42 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Not to mention, the only reason why an article was written about his death was because of the charges. Which is wrong and unnecessary.

peanut

11:49 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012

go look at the accident, site you are incorrect, i do know differently, there are absolutely no skid marks on site. if that is what you are told, again you are very wrong for believing everything you hear.

dajoepa75

12:04 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

The first 3 paragraphs and the sentence following deal with the death of Mr. Lehman. The details on the charges follow. Aren't the first three paragraphs the primary focus of any story? Then the headline goes contrary to the body of the story. Just from a writing perspective, the opening paragraphs and the headline should go together. Those who agree the story was appropriate are missing the point. It's NOT that the charges should not be included; they are NOT the primary reason the article was written. Read the article again; too much time wasted on trying to rectify something so simple as corrected the headline. It's not the story, it's the headline. After the correction can we then focus on the tragic death of this young man (and comment on charges if you must).

AnoninCinna

12:16 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

How horrible to mention the sewerage department scandal along with this young man's death! Have some respect! This is low, even for Patch!

Bruce S

12:16 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

The meaning of this article I thought was to show his life celebration after all that's what an obituary is. Instead this was a tasteless act by a very low skilled journalist to try to make a name for herself n dirty a name it's a shame for the family and friends who are grieving to have to read this. This shows why this woman works for a small town blog and not an actual news outlet like the courier post or the times and such. This man was never given his day in court the justice system has failed and let him Down innocent until proven guilty remember that. I feel that an apology should be given imagine how the family is feeling I hope that nobody ever has to feel tragedy unfortunately the world we live in is not perfect the township should be offering support instead of causing pain shame on the patch and township for letting such poor tasteless journalism be written.

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tomas

8:01 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

This is not an obituary. Parts of the obituary were included in this news article, but that was not the "meaning" of the article as you put it.

Long time resident

12:50 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I have no problem with the way this article was written. Condolences to the family, but everyone seems to have forgotten that everyone involved in the "sewerage authority scandal" stole from every Cinnaminson resident.

Christine T

1:21 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

My thoughts and prayers are with the entire Lehman family in your time of loss. So sad.

Rebecca Abrams

1:21 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I am not condoning his actions, but one mistake, error in judgement, does not define a person. We all make mistakes in our lives, some become a better person for it. This whole article should be removed or given a different headline as respect for his family and friends.

Bruce S

1:21 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Long time resident I understand that but he was never given his day in court the justice system says until proven guilty

Lamb Chop

1:21 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

No one has forgotten anything Long Time Resident. As much as our Township Committee would like everyone to forget. The sewer authority "scandal" is still ongoing. This man made a mistake, he was 27 years old. If you made a mistake, or got arrested some time ago, would you want your obituary to state "Man charged with shoplifting died suddenly last night". Just plain stupid and ignorant.

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Cinnaminson Resident

1:47 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

"Some time ago"... This scandal is still ongoing, I don't consider Feb 2012 to be "some time ago". So why not mention the full story?

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dajoepa75

2:15 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

You're right Lamb Chop, This sets up a new way of writing obits in newspapers. "Cinnaminson man, who had 17 drug arrests, died saving child in river." or Cinnaminson woman, arrested 4 times for shopplifting, perishes in house fire (and also volunteered time at soup kitchen). Ridiculous, of course.....but again, the obit is how the person died, the charges are secondary.

Cinnaminson Resident

1:47 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

First and foremost, my condolences to the Lehman family & friends! May he rest in peace.

With that said, I do not see this article being heartless, in poor taste, or out of line.

Ellie A.

2:15 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

To have a child die is truly a terrible thing. My condolences go to the Lehman family and friends.

But shame on all of you for hijacking this comment section to berate and bully the reporter and not even offering up your condolences. If you are mad at the fact the sewer issue was brought up, that is o.k. but to not even say anything about the young man who died is truly, truly awful.

The man unfortunately made some terrible decisions in his life. While I too do not agree with the headline, I appreciate the fact that the patch's editor and even her boss came on to talk to us. Have some class people. You make Cinnaminson look like a bunch of warmongers.

Sarah

2:59 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

What's offensive is that a young man died. Also offensive is the alleged crimes of the young man who died.

Reporting the news is not offensive. Fact is Fact. Good job Patch for standing by your standards.

My deepest condolenses go out to this family. This is a horrible loss that no parent should have to suffer.

Its so sad that so many choose to argue the merits of the Patch's reporting with no mention of condolences to the family.

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tomas

8:01 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

The comments on this page embarrass me as a cinnaminson resident. Thank you for having some common sense and realizing what the term 'journalism' actually means

Steve Marquez

3:36 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? We haven't seen all the facts, so why are you so quick to assume what he did? The headline is in poor taste, point blank period. The fact that is people are way to liberal with saying who is guilty when they haven't even had their day in court. Its not as if our justice system can't be wrong as if they haven't brought false charges against people before, and saying or implying otherwise is flat out assinine. The story should focus on the passing of Joe Lehman, not about a case to which they haven't even been to trial for and have the opportunity to clear their names. To bring it up in the headline is unfair to Joe.

I've known the Lehman family for 10 years, and would like to express my condolences and prayers to them.

cinnaminson resident

4:43 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I think who ever wrote this should just leave the family a lone. If this was anyone else's son they would want them to be left alone and be able to rest in peace. Basically article is saying who cares if he died. . he "allegedly " did all this stuff! Leave the poor family alone and let them grieve..

MA

5:16 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I didn't know him but met his brother few times and if he is anuthjng like Shawn he is a great guy. I do not agree on his this artice was written so if you make a mistake then your flaws get to be shown in your death notice. For example, "NFL player who killed dogs dies in car crash" that would just be down right wrong if that player ever died but then again he is famous and not a regular person so you "higher class" people as some would call themselfs can talk down on us not "high class" americans.

MA

5:16 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

My thoughts an prays to Shawn and the Lehman family

noyb

5:16 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

the only reason any of you know his name is because he was involved in the Sewer Authority scandal. Lots of people die in Cinnaminson and dont get a patch article... he does becasue HE WAS INVOLVED IN A BIG TIME NEWES EVENT. His death while tragic, is a news worthy event. He was accused of stealing from teh township and if you remember many of the items he is accused of stealing went onto his motorcycle. Any way you look at it most people in Cinnaminson know his name because of the past... No mention of it is just rediculious. The patch didnt create that news they just reported it. The reported it respectfully, and I have no problem mentioning it in the article.

dajoepa75

5:23 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Phillyburbs.com got the story right. It was about the sudden death of a young man from Cinnaminson killed in a motorcycle accident. It was dignified and respectful. If this news source could write an appropriate story, it's a shame his own town newspaper couldn't.

FJL

8:01 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Imagine anyone of our deaths being highlighted by our most regretful thing in life. Heartless and selfish are the words that come to mind when I see this headline. Terrible and ignorant are others! You guys at patch can make up all the fake names and write comments trying to defend your absolute disgusting headline all you want. Your flat out wrong! RIP

Marc

8:00 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

It would be out of line and beyond offensive if this was on the funeral home’s webpage, but it is not. This is not an obituary. This is a News website. When Jo Paterno passed away, I’m sure his obituary didn’t say a thing about the scandal surrounding him in his last days. News websites did.... what news site DIDNT mention his legal troubles, despite him having such a positive impact on students for his whole life? And just like him, I sure JB had way more positive interactions in his life than bad, it’s just a shame that he was linked to this shady occurrence in the town so close to his tragic death.

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cinnagirl

9:39 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Marc you are so right PEOPLE THIS IS A NEWS WEBSITE NOT AN OBITUARY. it is patch's job to tell us news about the town, the sewage scandal was a big part of cinnaminsons news so of course shes gonna tie it in together. christina is doing her job, all your harsh words about her is so immature.

joan

8:00 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

cinnaminson resident
my thought an prays are with shawn and the lehman family i know you son well

KevinEvans

8:00 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Christina & Tim,

Condolences to the family. Very sad.

Tim, shame on you for allowing the headline to run. There is a respectful way to mention he was connected to the sewer scandal without sensationalizing his death. Both of you should read the phillyburb article and brush up on your "unbiased journalism" skills, or ask Rebekah Brooks or Andy Coulson for a job...

Seth

8:01 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

My condolences to the Family and Friends. As far as this article goes I think Patch hit an all time low. Christina I can't believe you feel as though this is reporting. You are a true embarrassment and disappointment to this town blog. Try putting the shoe on the other foot...just imagine if this was a friend or family member of yours ... SHAME ON you and your editor!

AnoninCinna

9:11 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I think most people objected more to the HEADLINE than a mention of the allegations in the article itself. The same article could have been written with less focus on the allegations/scandal and certainly without as the HEADLINE (!!!)

Mike jones

10:56 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I would always see him and his brother speed around on there motorcycles doing 65 70 mph easily and thats what happens when u play stupid.games

Feldman

8:05 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

Christina, sorry but you and your editor completely blew this one! You can't hide behind the "full disclosure" journalism buzzword here. You showed an unbelievable lack of compassion and sensitivity here to a fellow Cinnaminson guy who was in high school with you. I attended Joe's viewing last night and cried with his family. I didn't see you there. To spin your obituary article into some twisted story about an alleged crime attached to a deceased young man, loved by many, is a discrace to the Patch, citizens of Cinnaminson, and readers everywhere. I don't even live in Cinnaminson and it offends me. Did you skip class at Rowan the day they covered sensitvity and respect? You should be aware of your audience when you write a story, but then again maybe you did and just don't care. I have to agree with the concensus here that you showed utter lack of compassion and good taste in your article. You should be ashamed of yourself! Your defensive feedback just makes you look even smaller. And Mike Jones, your comments are uncalled for and completely insensitive. You wouldn't be making comments like that if it was your brother or close friend I'm sure. To the individuals who thought there was nothing wrong with the article, you should reflect on what happened to Joe here and not any possible connection to your precious Sewerage Authority. You seem to have a lot in common with the latter.

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tomas

4:58 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

sensitivity and respect is part of the journalism curriculum

Maria Sanders

8:56 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

So everybody is entitled to their own opinion about this. We all understand there may have been a slight oversight to allow the article heading to stay the way that it is. At the end of the day Joe was involved in the sewer authority scandel. His name was associated with it, not because of Patch but because of his own involovement. Could the headline have been a little less blunt ..Yes. It was in poor taste but the truth must be put out there. It is always a tragedy when somebody passes, but it is also a shame when somebody is involved with stealing equipment and money from the township.

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Feldman

10:22 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

Maria Sanders, thanks for being the judge, jury, and executioner for Joe. How do you know the truth? How do you know he was involved? Yes, he was arrested along with others but in the United States you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Has that occurred without our knowledge? Has anyone been arrested and then found not guilty of a crime? Your opinion may hold water in a third world country but not here. You were right on one point however, that the headline was in bad taste, but to the majority, the mere mention of his association with the alleged crime was in bad taste as well. It's a shame that Christina didn't solicit input for the obit from Joe's family instead of the insulting write-up that was presented. What is a real shame Maria, is how callous people can kick someone when they are down.

Nosni Mannic

10:22 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

Wow, quite a debate on this! I hope some good can come out of it.
1.) Honest question to Patch editors: In this new world of online journalism, what are your standards? What qualifies as "breaking news," as opposed to a regular story? Would it be helpful to have something on the site about your standards re news/commentary, and you can refer readers to it in the future?
2.) Does a third person write the headlines, and thus readers' objections to the headlines should not be directed to Christina P. or to other writer/reporter?
3.) This is the first time I'm learning that Christina has an editor. Unless I missed it-- Tim, you could introduce yourself, tell us about yourself and your role?
Thx

tim l

10:58 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

This is absolutely bottom of the barrel reporting. Shame on all involved in this type of reporting. Try and step up your class next time.

Bull Pitt

11:40 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

Let's see, we have two recent articles about a convicted drug addict, spent time in jail, well known infamously for his actions over the past several years. Here are his TWO headlines on THIS site.
"Eagles Fans Saddened by Garrett Reid's Death"
"Andy Reid's Son Died of Accidental Heroin Overdose, DA Says"
No where in these headlines does it mention his crimes and convictions.
I see a deliberate attempt to stir a controversy in Cinnaminson, and punishing this kid and his family for the sole purpose of sensationalizing this website. RIP Joe, and prayers to his family and friends.

goodbye

3:20 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Tasteless way to present this story. You all should be ashamed. We are DONE with this site.

Andrew Sachs

4:09 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I am a former copy editor who always had to write headlines like this. I worked with Christina Paciolla at a newspaper however I am not sure she knows me as our time there only overlapped a couple of weeks.

I can tell you this headline is journalistically correct and after realizing the man involved is a public figure, I feel that it's a necessary evil.

I feel for the family and the young man's friends and know how hard it is to read something like this on a site you consider your "town newspaper." But do any of you realize that Patch.com is AOL and Huffington Post. This is not the "Positive Press" or some girl's blog. Did any of you bother to read that not only Christina but her editor Tim have decades of experience in journalism among them?

I did because I like to know the entire story before I comment.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it wrong.

Yes, it's a terrible circumstance, but this would not be front-page news if he wasn't already a public figure. I really don't think Christina writes about every death but this person was in the news as a public figure as Tim points out, therefore the headline made sense.

I understand how it could seem insensitive and hard to swallow. But you people are crucifying the people who bring you this site. It's easy for you all to hide behind a screen name.

Thank you for reading my long comment. I hope everyone realizes the awful things you are saying to reporters who are doing their jobs.

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tomas

4:58 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Thank you for being the only one with common sense here

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dajoepa75

5:24 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Couple of questions Andrew:
1. Is it correct that the first 2 or 3 paragraphs of an article deal with the primary purpose of the article?
2. Is the headline a reflection of the primary purpose of the article?
3. Would there be any story if Mr. Lehman had not been in an accident?
4. Why is it another local online news source showed correct headline which was the unfortunate accident and death?
5. Should not the charges have been secondary to the main article and shown in the body of the article not the headline?
6. Why was this originally a "breaking" news story with a banner when the accident happened 4 days prior to the article.
I notice it the defending comments always get back to the charges being newsworthy but you don't address those who it was the headline that was wrong. Yes or no, is the headline correct for the true purpose of this article? Afterall this story would not exist without this young man's accident.

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Andrew Sachs

5:28 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Excellent questions dajoepa, and I will answer some of them in a little bit. I'm tied up with work but give me some time and I'll answer these. But remember, these are from my perspective only. I have nothing to do with this article or this company.

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Steven Wanicur

6:19 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Excuse me Andrew --- the purpose is not to crucify Christina -- it was to disagree with her --- and as a reporter, she has to learn that not all will agree - and that maybe she has made an incorrect decision or comment --- she does a very credible job but the bulk of people disagree with her here --- and just having experience -as you do-- does not validate your opinions ---it is sort of like a pro athlete saying that if you did not play the sport, your opinion is worthless --- again, the Patch has value-- but made an error in judgment here as evidenced by the bulk of the commens

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Ric

7:42 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

@Steven Wanicur. First, no one will ever say I am a fan of Christina but even I can see many people, including you, are crucifying her. Mr. Sach's experience does give him credibility. You, however, are like miniature golfer giving Tiger Woods tips on how to improve his game. Under mob rules, the loudest roar wins. But on a community discussion group, numbers mean nothing. You need to calm down with a brewski or two. By the way, the Jug should be fun tonight. Maybe you could calm down there.

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Andrew Sachs

8:14 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Dajoepa75: Sorry for a late answer; I had some work to finish up. Taking a break now to try to answer some of your questions. Again, I have no affiliation here but i'd like to weigh in as a media professional like Christina and others here at Patch. I am a former news reporter, too.
1. Actually, the first two or three paragraphs of a story act as a lede. The "purpose" of a story is called a "nut" graph. It's a paragraph that explains what the story is about. However, all journalistic writing does not need to adhere to these technical rules. The author writes a story the way he or she wishes to present it. What I assume here is that the author/editor went with the more "newsy" part of it in the headline and talked about the accident in those first few graphs. She or anyone else could have easily done that differently, so I don't put too much thought in that.

2. The headline is definitely a reflection of the primary purpose of the item. Like I said before, this man has become a public figure and was charged with a crime. Christina, in her article, never said the man had his day in court and she used all the proper wording. It may not sit well with some because they may not quite understand the different between being charged with something and convicted of something. The truth was the man was charged. He was a public figure therefore a story was written about him. I highly doubt Christina writes about everybody who dies in town in an accident outside of the town.

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Andrew Sachs

8:14 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

3. Do you mean if he had died in another way? There definitely would have been a story. It's because he is a public figure because of the charges.

4. I'm not sure what other news source you are referring to so I can't comment. I saw something very short on Phillyburbs, however that was not an article. I only saw something two graphs long that was just a rehash of what was on Patch. If the charges were not mentioned, that is a mistake on the part of the source. Of course, they could have avoided it on purpose to look like the good guy since the story came out after this one.

5. It's possible, but this goes back to what I said before. The man is a public figure and the headline reflected it. As a copy editor, I would have written the same headline. Again, I have no horse in this race; I am just giving my honest professional opinion.

6. I am a subscriber to Patch's breaking news so when a story goes up, I get an email. I'm sure you do, too. Knowing Patch's model (I applied for the company two years ago so I'm somewhat familiar), it sends an email to let people know there is a new story. I'm sure it was labeled "breaking" since no other news source reported it yet.

Although I admit it can rub people the wrong way, in my professional opinion, I would have done the same thing. I'm sure Christina isn't happy about it; it's never easy writing about this stuff, but she has remained professional throughout all of this. And in my opinion, most people on here have not.

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Andrew Sachs

8:14 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I apologize for the length of my comments! I copy edit for a living but my own writing is pretty long. :D

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Andrew Sachs

8:14 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Steven, I completely agree with you. But you must practice what you preach. You said that Christina needs to realize not everyone will agree with her. She does; she said that. I think everyone here needs to realize she may agree it's a sensitive subject, but she stuck to what she was taught professionally. That's very commendable in my opinion. She didn't change anything because she did the right thing. But don't tell the woman how to do her job. She is not here defending herself, which is the professional thing to do. She said her piece and moved on.

Again, what's right is not always popular.

I feel for this woman who has to read comment after comment about how she is unprofessional and uneducated. Read her bio for goodness sake. Google her name. I did! I only worked with her for two weeks and was unaware of her work until now, but I'm impressed with her body of work. I'm sure this isn't the first time she'd had to do something like this. It certainly will not be the last. I've had to do it dozens of times.

dajoepa75

9:31 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Andrew, although I appreciate your comments, I can't say that they all make sense regarding how this story was primarily about a "public" figure and why he was a public figure. That story was published a while ago. This story was about Mr Lehman's death and the charges were a secondary story in this case. Again, had he not passed, there would be nothing to write about Mr Lehman at this time. Finally, and for me this is final, your initial comment was this is AOL not some girl's blog or positive press. If that's the case, this is site is part of a large national news source then reporters have to put on their big boy or girl pants and realize that criticism of one's writing comes with the territory. National new reporters are constantly criticized by the public for their articles but I rarely see a writer defend themselves in such an emotional way or the need for other reporters to defend the reporter. Just look at any sports article and how the reporter is raked over the coals. It's part of the job. These comments took an ugly turn when the readers who did not agree were ridiculed for making negative comments about the story. That started the ball rolling. Readers are not stupid and they deserve the respect of the editors here just as they want respect. "This issue will not be debated any further." Comments like this are what incense readers. And there's enough back and forth between commentors; no editor ever comes to the defense of a commentor on here.

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Andrew Sachs

10:27 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Yeah, I'm not really sure if you want me to define a public figure. I'm confident you know what that means. The man was charged in a scandal that was highly publicized not only on Patch but all across the state and Greater Philadelphia region. That makes him a public figure albeit local.

I'm not really sure why you think the editors of this site aren't taking the criticism. They are. I see that Christina and her boss Tim both left a couple comments and explained why they did it. They didn't try to backtrack or it wasn't a desperate plea.

No one told me to defend Christina but after reading all these comments, I felt the need to say something just as you and everyone else did.

I mean what is your real problem here? Because now you've turned it into Christina defending herself in two comments. I mean, that's not really the issue.

A young man died and that's tragic. I feel for his family and friends. But now I feel as if I am commandeering this comment section and that's not really what I intended to do. I just wanted to throw my opinion in just like you did.

If you don't like it, you don't like it. If you don't like the site or the editor, then don't read it anymore. I mean, that's all we can really do. I mean, now you're referencing her saying she won't comment anymore, but you're chastising her for commenting? I mean, you've left SO many comments on this thread. All of which are the same.

dajoepa75

9:31 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

It's sad that a young man just lost his life and the 90 some comments here, including mine, had to be about how this story was written. In rereading it for the last time, the summary of the charges are towards the end of the story. So it couldn't have been that important if it wasn't at the beginning. The headline grabbed the readers; it did what it was intended to do because that's what news does. They draw the reader in. Sad thing is the headline of his death alone would draw in the readers because, in a small town, everyone knows everyone. And they take it more to heart because it is a small town. To the Lehman family, my apologies that this article drew even more attention to a small part of your son's life when I'm sure there were more positives than this negative. The negatives don't matter anymore, they mean nothing. A young man's life was lost; the rest of this means nothing.

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dajoepa75

10:39 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Andrew, have a good nite. Take care

Cheryl

9:45 pm on Sunday, October 21, 2012

I am JB's mother. My son deserved better. If you (Christina & Tim) didn't want to write an obituary, you shouldn't have written an article at all. His name isn't even listed under your obituary section- WHY NOT? You must feel that his death means less than the alleged charges. How dare you! JB's life was so much more than this scandal & the charges have nothing to do with his death.

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Emily Abrams

2:57 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Cheryl thats exactly how they feel. JB means less to them because of this stupid scandle. well they didnt know the true careing JB like we did and ya know what this news paper can go screw themselves they never got to know JB like we did then wont ever be lucky enough to call themselves friends or family!

Ric

11:49 am on Monday, October 22, 2012

I do not understand why there is so much outrage over this minor report; it has no real impact on Cinnaminson that would generate the huge number of responses. But then it is a curious fact that a large number of the complaints made against this story have been made by first time names – names that never posted before at Cinnaminson Patch.
I wonder if you were to subtract all the posts made by township employees, especially family and employees of the CSA, current as well as indicted, and by councilmembers, are there even more than a half dozen of the complaints made by disinterested citizens?

Emily Abrams

2:57 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

IF you truely ment to not be negative with this artical you would have also posted his obituary and you wouldnt have posted it with that title! You obviously didnt know JB personaly otherwise you would know he was so much better then you disgusting people and your idiotic artical. JB deserves more respect then this. imagine it was you son. Noone deserves to be put outhere like this especially when someone pass's sao tragicaly. Yall need to learn to be more respectfull to people when they are hurting!!!!!

Dean Poinsett

4:01 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

I believe a majority of these complaints are from people who know the family or JB, his death would have be recognized scandal or not. Most would have thought it would have been recognized with out this disgrace of an article.

People trying to justify this articles poor taste are just of sickening. You select few of disrespectful people just don't care to have decency towards grieving people. Maybe 1 out of 10 comments are in favor of this article, while the others are all supporting the family. (This is a Cinnaminson family, sons went to CHS, mother is bus driver, they deserve the respect any resident would get regardless of this "scandal") So as a "Cinnaminson source of journalism" learn to respect your residents. Own up to your mistakes without making horrible excuses.

Ric

4:01 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Hi Emily A! I see by clicking on your name that this is the very first news report that you have posted a response on Patch. That is so interesting. As you know, almost all of the messages made about this story are by new people like you - and not by the regular Patch readers. Just click on their names to see their posting history. Why do you suppose that is? I ask that because some might think that all these messages that appear to by a myriad number of new people are actually coming from a very small group of people who would even misspell lots of words to deflect suspicion. So would you be part of a small group let’s say friends and family of the indicted CSA employees? Should we expect to soon read complaints from an Emily B and Emily C?

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Emily Abrams

4:56 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

First of all. I am my own person and no one speaks for me and i don't need to use more then one name to say my part. I stand by everything i say and always will.... I use Emily A big deal want my real name ill use my real name. Emily Irene Abrams i don't need multiple names. Every single person who knew Joe personally will stand by their own opinions and will not need multiple names.

Bill Craythorn

4:24 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Ric it doesn't matter if there first time names. Friends and family may have never posted on here but we are now cause we are defending a personal friend or family member that can't defend himself And we will continue to defend him as long as anyone on here has anything negative to say. There is nothing that anyone can sy that will justify the way that this article was written as the people responsible for it deserve to be crucified. Also Ric I don't see you useing your full name why is that maybe you are one in the same person that defend this article with all the different names.

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Ric

4:49 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Bill, nope, you are wrong. I am one of those who do not use different names to bolster my points. I only use Ric. Obviously I think using myriad names to appear you have a ground swell is cheap. Any follower of Patch can testify I am often by myself arguing a position.
My point is at first glance it appears that most of the 110 posts on this topic are from outraged residents of Cinnaminson at large. But in fact, as you confirmed, the messages are coming from a small group trying to appear like a large group filled with moral outrage of epic proportions.
By the way, no one was crucified by this report.

Emily Abrams

4:59 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Apparently the patch doesn't like what Joe's family and friends have to say since they wouldn't post my first post. haha Thats pretty funny

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Christina Paciolla

4:59 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Emily, your first post contained expletives which are not allowed on the commenting section as they violate Patch's terms of service.

chris

5:11 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Jezz the tools are still in attack Chistina mode lol

Emily Abrams

5:12 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Since they decided not to post it originally. Ill stand by what i say till the day i die!
Your recent contribution
I agree with Cheryl JB deserved better I am a long time friend of the family and JB and shawn are like older brothers to me and JB didnt deserve this. He was the most caring person I know. JBs death broke alot of hearts and hurt alot of people. You have no right to down play his dead with that headline. Those charges shouldn't matter when he passed away so suddenly. You all say it was one of cinnaminsons biggest stories BIG FREAKIN DEAL! Who cares! If it was that big of a deal the would know him by name not by the title. He died in a terriable ACCIDENT! The accident had NOTHING to do with those charges so there is ABSOUTLY no reason they should be brought up when someone so young dies. JB was loved by so many people and his memory will never be forgotten or tarnished again. Anyone who thinks less of JB, well frankly you all can go kick dirt! JB's family and friends are truely heart broken over this and you guys are doing nothing but hurt us. HE was the most loving and careing person I knew. NO matter what time or what he was doing he would give the shirt off his back to help someone and he will be truly missed! Christina & Tim You guys are truly mean people. To post something like this when a family is hurting so badly from the lose of a son. Thats is the worst thing a parent could ever deal with. Having to bury their child and you are down playing their loss!

dajoepa75

5:39 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Ric I normally enjoy your posts but you are so totally off base this time. Iposred numerous times on this article, havent posted as much on patch because nothing changes here. I do not know this family at all lived here 24 years but know very few In this town. This article would not have been written had it not been for his tragic death. Why is that simpe point overlooked. This young man became news here and on other sites noe because of his death. I have to wonder why it bothers you so much that his family friends are upset. Why are you so angry about their grief. Why not just let them have their say. You Christina Tim are so defensive about yourselves here. This has nothing to do with you three. Back off and let them ts

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Ric

6:18 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

dajoepa,
Thank you for your comments. First, my comments were directed to the many first timers posting at this story which of course excluded you. I made my comments for several reasons.
1. The death was unfortunate but the story was fair as reported. There were no lies. The reporter was being scapegoated.
2. It was obvious the complaints were unfairly being made by a small group using multiple names. That is not fair because it made the number of complaints to appear far over inflated.
3. To acknowledge that many of the attacks at Patch are coming from people pretending to be disinterested parties but they are actually hiding their connection to the township government - employed or elected.

dajoepa75

5:39 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Let them speak....sorry typing on phone.

dajoepa75

6:18 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

There is a question I have to those who defend this article and feel justified in making the headline about the charges and not Mr. Lehman's sudden death. There's a pictorial chart on the article about the sewerage charges; the link is in the article. There are "mugshots" of those charged. If the article is indeed about a "public figure" here in Cinnaminson why would Patch not use the "mugshot" since they feel this is more the story than Mr. Lehman's death. Why put such a personal photo from Facebook of the young man in his own kitchen...Or does that cross the line of human decency. The story is linked to the articles about the charges but the photo is not? Is that too harsh even for Patch? So maybe the headline is about the accidental death of Mr Lehman who was previously charged and not the other way around. The facebook photo would make it seem so.

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chris

6:35 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Damn joepa you need to get a grip, first off Ric is absolutely right in what he posted. You continue to go on these long winded rants which just keeps this thread alive and kicking.

Just let it go

Mary

6:55 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Being a Mother myself my heart goes out to Cheryl. I am so sorry for loss. Many people on here agree that this article was insensitive, hurtful and down right mean! I can only say this, Patch is a Blog it is not anymore than just that. The Editor and Writers on here are a far cry from professional journalist in my opinion. One day I hope they look back at this and understand the magnitude of hurt they conflicted on so many.

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Andrew Sachs

7:03 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Mary, you and others don't even know the difference between and blog and a news website. Just because you don't know the difference-and you don't like the article-doesn't mean this is a blog. Why don't you read the professional biographies of this site's editors? I guess you don't recognize Tim Zatzariny's or Christina Paciollas names from other news publications you wouldn't dare call a blog.

I had to come on here and say something. Christina and Tim aren't allowed to defend themselves so somebody must.

Mary, I'm actually glad you say the editors and writers on here aren't professional journalists "in my opinion." It's not a matter of opinion. It's a fact.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it wrong.

dajoepa75

7:11 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Chris, I can see from the various comments you've made on various articles that you are right. I do make much longer comments than you. In fact, I couldn't find a comment that was more than two sentences. But that's all you really need for one liners with the intent to insult your particular target at the time. I'll use the regular response "if you don't like the comments, don't read them". Works for me; and maybe, you'll find if you want to add some substance to a conversation, you'll have to lengthen your comments. Have a good nite Chris; sleep well ok?

dajoepa75

7:11 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

And, Chris, yes I voted for Obama. Not sure this time but...we'll see. There I gave you your opening. Go for it...

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chris

7:23 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

One again get a grip joepa.....you're constant whining is getting pathetic

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dajoepa75

7:29 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Chris, just stop it ok? There's a time and place for you insults. This article is not it. I'm sorry you don't agree with what I say but if you need to insult me further take it the "boards" ok? It doesn't belong here and I'm sorry that I made the same mistake as you.

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dajoepa75

7:29 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Just click on my "name" and you can vent all you want there not here.

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Dean Poinsett

7:32 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

@ Chris, I will agree with Ric. Your meager attempts of insults towards anyone not for this article are quite pathetic. Calling people "tools" or telling them to "get over" a death that happened a week ago, seems sad. We get it, you're friends with the editors.

Dean Poinsett

7:11 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

@ Ric - You seem to be thinking this is a repeat from the election in Cinnaminson last year, people are not making multiple accounts to say the same thing about this mans death. The reason why there are new posters is because this story has become quite popular. I don't understand why that is a hard concept to grasp. If you have posted 1 time or 100 times on patch, it doesn't make your points anymore or any less valid.

The problem is the number of people shocked by this article far outnumbers the ones defending Christina and Tim's "journalism". Let's not forget this isn't NBC, ABC, Fox news. We can't be that surprised a local internet blog doesn't uphold common courtesy for family and friends of the deceased. They are a young source of local news and need to do what they can to increase their viewers, and they have done so with this low class article. This doesn't justify their actions, but for people with common sense you can see what this headline was trying to do.

reading

7:45 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Christina, I have also had several posts deleted. There was no violation of patch policy in them. I was using the name justreading. Waiting for your response.

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Christina Paciolla

7:51 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Hi reading,
Since the account you just posted from was created 15 minutes ago, I assume you're speaking of one with a different email address. Please let me know what email address the account you're speaking of is connected with, and then I can help you out. You can email me at christina.paciolla@patch.com.

However, there were only two comments that were deleted from Patch—both contained expletives.

Christina

Jenny Lee

11:53 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Speaking words of wisdom...let it be

Emily Abrams

10:27 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

yeah and Both comments were from me and outta those two comments i used one bad word and i apoligize but it still think its funny they you wouldnt post my send commet when i used nothing bad...

Chrissandra Spencer

2:46 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

This has been a terrible tragedy that we all have been dealing with.The Lehman's are like my family, and I'm not here to bash anybody but this headline is only drawing in people who know the negative about JB, it wasn't posted for the friends, family and people who truly care about him.. I understand if he wasn't part of this scandal (which remember all innocent until proven guilty, he may have been charged but not convicted, and sadly he will never get his day in court to clear his name that is being dragged through the mud through everyone's talk on here) like I was saying I UNDERSTAND that there would be no story had that never happened but did you have to be so insensitive? (there's more I reached my character limit.)

Chrissandra Spencer

2:46 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

@ Mike Jones "I would always see him and his brother speed around on there motorcycles doing 65 70 mph easily and thats what happens when u play stupid.games"
I'm assuming you're referring to route 130, the speed limit is 50... let me guess you do the exact speed limit? You don't do 60 mph EVER? Look around you EVERYONE is doing 60-70 MPH EASY.. "thats what happens when you play stupid games" I'm assuming you also don't know that JB was an experienced rider, I'm not saying that makes it okay but he wasn't some kid who just jumped on a bike thought he was invincible. He PREACHED about wearing gear, and being careful. This was an ACCIDENT that happened on a Harley NOT a STUNT BIKE, not a SPORT bike and NOT ON A HIGHWAY, and not while PLAYING STUPID GAMES.Chrissandra L. Spencer is my name SAY SOMETHING.

Chrissandra Spencer

2:46 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

& @Ric I AM a new poster, doesn't make me any less real or my points any less valid. But I am a real person, Facebook , Google WHATEVER you wanna do to make yourself feel better.. and also CHRISTINA PACIOLLA may be responding and acting professional on here, but the internet is a big place.

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