Updated: Sicklerville Woman Stabbed Another in Face, Neck in Wawa Lot
Kartelina Holt, of Sicklerville, is accused in the box cutter stabbing of Ashley Anderson, Cinnaminson Police say.
Update, 1:45 p.m., June 27:
SOUTHERN NJ -- A woman living illegally in the country is the aggressor in this morning’s box cutter stabbing of a Pennsauken woman at Cinnaminson’s Church Road Wawa, Cinnaminson Police announced.
Kartelina Holt, 32, of Millstone Court in Sicklerville, stabbed Ashley Anderson, 25, of Delair Avenue in Pennsauken, multiple times Wednesday morning, according to police.
Holt is an undocumented immigrant from Barbados, police discovered during their investigation.
Holt is charged with aggravated assault with a weapon, possession of a weapon, possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose and tampering with evidence.
She’s being held in Burlington County Jail on $100,000 full cash bail.
Anderson, meanwhile, continues to receive treatment for facial and neck lacerations from the stabbing. She is expected to fully recover.
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SOUTHERN NJ -- A woman stabbed this morning at Wawa is going to be OK after another woman stabbed her in the head, neck and face following a physical altercation, according to local police.
Cinnaminson, N.J. Police were called to the Church Road Wawa around 7 a.m. today after two females, who are acquaintances, were fighting inside the store. Sgt. William Obuchowski said a male friend of both women broke up the fight. As the victim walked outside toward her car, the suspect went up behind her with a box cutter.
"She stabbed or sliced the girl three times in the back of the head and neck, went in the front and cut her face in a couple of places," said Obuchowski.
The stabbing occurred in the row of parking spots along Church Road. Cones and police tape covered the spot, also blocking a nearby black SUV. The SUV appeared to have stains on it, but it is unknown who owns it.
The alleged stabber then fled across Church Road to the wooded area next to TD Bank and disposed of the weapon. When the suspect walked back out of the woods, police arrested her and took her into custody. Police have not released her identity.
The victim was transported to Cooper University Hospital in Camden. Obuchowski said police were informed she is going to recover.
"The wounds weren't as bad as they looked," he said.
It is unknown what started the altercation, Obuchowski said, but it appears the two women knew each other.
Wawa's corporate office, where local employees referred Patch to for comment, did not immediately return phone messages.
That is all the information police have at this time. Read the original report at UPDATED: Witnesses: Fight Led to Stabbing at Cinnaminson Wawa. Stay with Patch as we bring you more information on this story.
Jennifer
12:21 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
How disturbing. People are really crazy. Why did she have a box cutter? Seriously? If I had to guess I am sure it was over a guy.
Sharyn
5:59 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
She had a box cutter because she lives in a box...it wasn't a weapon, it was her house key!
cashie1982
6:14 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
omg u lucky cursing is prohibited on here or u would knw how i truly feel but ur ignorance is uncalled for n u need 2 be smacked (Sharyn) yes im talkn 2 u ignorant summmmma so ill leave it like that
Jeff
6:56 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
An illegal alien with a box cutter.... isn't that what brought down the Twin Towers
Anaverage Man
9:37 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
@Sharyn LMAO
Crass Marrocco
1:58 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Hope she said "dunkadooballs" while being placed in the police car.
Bruce Silver
2:02 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
I just want to know if she is one the 1.4 million illegals that President Obama wants to cut a break. pun intended.
Linda
4:42 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Probably if she has any children under 100, oops I mean 30. How in the hell did she even get bond? This Country is going to hell in a handbasket when bail is being granted to an illegal alien that has committed a felony! Go Obama good deal! I can only continue to pray we will be rid of this sham of a President!
Sharyn
6:02 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
She's at the top of his list now. We have some loony people walking around, folks.
Jeff
7:15 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Yes ... if she commits a few more felonies Hussein Barry Lucifer Obama will personally make her a legal citizen. She will be an official Obama worshipping ,freeloading ,bottomfeeding voter
Joan37
9:34 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Wow, blaming the President Of The United States for a fight in Cinnaminson. Very small minded! I thought this site was for current news in Cinnaminson. Too much political hatred on this site.
Anaverage Man
10:01 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
@Joan37. Legitimate comment for a small minded president. He wants to protect these criminals. They have no regard for the law and have proven that by being here "illegally". Our pPresident wants to grant amnesty to these criminals and at the same time remove our ability to protect ourselves from them by dilluting our constitutional rights. Makes no sense, but the mindless drones will go on cheering for him regardless of the damage he does to this country.
Janice Ian
2:29 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
well said, Bruce
Crass Marrocco
2:33 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Why does an illegal immigrant even get bail? I thought bail was a right afforded to legal citizens. Won't she just go back to Barbados?
cashie1982
5:07 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
she was going 2 wrk as far i now she dnt just carry stuff round like that
cashie1982
5:08 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
self defense is that not legal its ashame we have 2 do time wen we defend ourself
Anaverage Man
10:07 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Really Cashie! Self defense? She stabbed her in the back while she was leaving. I guess ya didn't take the time to read the story.
bwils
2:52 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
I don't believe she should even have a right to a trial if she's in this country illegally. Just put her butt on the next plane to Bridgetown!
cashie1982
5:09 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
knw the situation b4 u judge seem like all u see is wat is put up here everybody isnt that bad of a person
Anaverage Man
10:11 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
She physically attacked and mamed another person out of anger, not fear for her life, not self defense, but anger. She has an uncontrollable criminal persona and should be deported for being caught in this country period. Even aside from the fact that she commited a heinous crime.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:10 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
She is an ILLEGAL!! Ship her out.....along with the rest of the illegals who are sucking the life out of US citizens with their taking advantage of all the free emergency room benefits, schooling and all things paid for by United States Citizens with our tax dollars!! Yea, some of them 'have to' pay taxes but not if they are paid 'under the table' as most are!! What's wrong here folks????
Jane Binkley
3:06 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Why doesn't this surprise me? We may as well get used to this kind of thing now.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:11 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I hope you are not serious........get used to it?? "BS" not this old lady!
HOPPING MADD FAMILY MEMBER
3:16 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Its ok to make all kinds of wisecracks and judgemental statements about a case when you know nothing about it so I forgive everyone who is going to say whatever comes to mind. HOWEVER I know this case personally and the victim (Ashley Anderson) WAS the aggressor, has been harassing her for a very long time BECAUSE she is illegal. Further more there is a restraining order against her (Ashley Anderson) for previous assaults and harassment. I hope the person who published this story filled with erroneous details is sued to the fullest extent of the law by the defendant's family (MOTHER, FATHER, BROTHER) who are US NATURALIZED CITIZENS.
Christina Paciolla
3:22 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
"Hopping Madd,"
All of this information comes directly from the Cinnaminson Police Department. If you or someone has a problem with the information, I'm sure they'd be willing to listen to you. We did not publish any information as to who attacked whom and what the reason was—in fact, we stated we did not have that information. Those details were not released. Thank you.
Christina, Editor
geo
3:42 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
still its so wrong
Danielle
3:55 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Harassment is not right, but in no way is that an excuse to cut someone up with a box cutter. Keep the attempted paybacks in your own town!
chris
3:57 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
So according to hopping mad the facts the Cinn. Police put out were filled with erroneous details and the Ms. Anderson was the aggressor. Wow ok I got it....Ms. Anderson brought being cut up by illegal alien with a box cutter on herself.
Case solved ! Thanks for straightening that all out for us hopping mad
Danielle
3:58 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
And just b/c her family members are naturalized citizens doesn't mean she gets to be one by association.
cashie1982
5:14 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
i agree ppl r ready 2 judge b4 knwing the story if u dnt knw wat u tlkn bout dnt put ur 2 sense in 2 sumthing just cuz of freedom of speech keep ur thoughts 2 ursrlf 4 1nce its sum1 who was mindind there business n have sum crazy chick dat dosent like obeying the law n keeping her distance
geo
9:20 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
What this country needs is European immigration. The people here from the third world will only make the US a third world country also.
Anaverage Man
10:16 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Illegally here = deportation period
She was a criminal before she even comitted this criminal act.
bwils
3:19 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Yep, between this and those hoodlums at the Carnival...Cinnaminson is going to HELL in a HANDBASKET ! :)
Jeremiah
3:40 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Ashley got what she deserve she has been stalking Holt for 2 years and even arrested for assaulting Holt in late 2010 ! When u go looking for some one at 7 am by their job to assault them this is what happens to u.
cashie1982
5:17 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
thank u
Mike Rath
5:21 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Mr. Bullfrog..
Read my lips.. Carrying a box cutter, much less using it is ILLEGAL. If you were going to CHURCH and had a box cutter it would be ILLEGAL. Wake up and learn the law.. If she was being harassed, there are legal remedies-Not slashing her face.. OK in Barbados (maybe) not here..
Ric
6:37 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
I am trying to understand you. Are you are saying Ashley Anderson has been harassing Kartelina Holt for a long time. What happened today is Holt who is employeed by Wawa was working when she was confronted by Anderson. Because of long history of the harassment, Holt snapped today. Do I understand you correctly?
cashie1982
6:53 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
yes anderson has been harrasing holt 4 years n as holt was stop at the wawa on her way 2 work wen anderson showed up at the same place were holt was n it went from there
geo
9:23 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Those Barbados People and their wonderful culture.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:13 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Then, why not put them both away??
Christina Paciolla
3:52 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Readers, profanity—even masked profanity—is not allowed here on Patch. Please do not use it, do not use asterisks or symbols like $, % or more. Your comment will be promptly deleted and repeat offenders will have their accounts suspended. Thanks.
Doreen M. Lopez
7:07 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Christina, I sure wish you could do something about the posts from cashie1982. I'm not sure if they are writing in a foreign language or if he/she is in the third grade!
cashie1982
7:20 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
i would like 2 know what was said that was inappropriate i said nuthing 2 do with profanity at all and if u cant understand what is written then dont read or comment on it thats all dont b petty its stupid
Chris Ricciuti
3:52 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
If an American did this kind of thing in another country, they'd probably be put to death or sentenced to 57 years in prison. But this woman is going to get a fair trial by her peers. Something is seriously wrong here.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:16 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Let me get this straight, the perp is an illegal, right...has been here for 3 or 4 yrs. right? What's wrong here?? If so many knew why wasn't she shipped back to Barbados?? Yes, something IS seriously here and I'm sick of it!!
Leianne
4:06 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Yes I guess it really would be wrong for someone to get a fair trial in the USA, wow! Way to go Chris! How about the black guy sentenced to life in prison recently in Texas for punching a store clerk???
Tom M
3:56 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
What are the erroneous details?
geo
3:57 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
criminals, law enforcement, judge, jury, whom else is here for this reckoning of bad behaving "Americans " seems there some confusion on who really is doing the back stabbing ! Well let the courts ( at law abiding "Americans" ) expense decide not the streets.
Camden Crew
1:38 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
You mean leave it up to people with the kind of mental fortitude displayed on this post to decide? ah hah! good one!
HOPPING MADD FAMILY MEMBER
4:12 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
She got what she deserved and I won't apologise for saying that. Hopefully the TRUTH will come out in the trial.
The Man
5:09 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
for knowing so much about the story HOPPING MASS FAMILY MEMBER, you spelled "apologize" wrong
Ric
9:17 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
The Man,
Sorry but you just flunked big time. Hopping Madd is correct because he/she comes from Barbados where apologize is spelt apologise. Obviously you have never been to another English speaking country. Our language is similar to the English of other English speaking countries but not exact.
Both are acceptable in British and American English, although 'apologize' is much more common in American English, and many British writers prefer 'apologise'.
Back when United States was a new country, Congress wanted to create an American identity, so with the help of Noah Webster, the spelling of certain words changed – including apologise. Essentially Americans are deliberately misspelling the word.
You need to apologise to Hopping Madd.
.
Anaverage Man
10:23 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Ric...you're in America now. "When in Rome do as the Romans do."
Luke Murry
8:06 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Anaverageman, I hope you realize the irony in comparing America to Rome. The authoritarian mindset that everything should be a certain way (Caesars way- the states way) had quite a bit to do with the fall of the Roman empire. The American empire is doing just great though, right?
Anaverage Man
10:17 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
Luke, relating America to Rome is indeed a very parallel comparison. The fall of Rome was caused by a decaying within, just as our country is decaying from within. The lines between what is right and what is wrong have been blurred so that there is no more black and white, but only gray creating a somewhat anarchic society and ultimately may be its demise.
Conformism is unfairly pegged as a dirty word consistently. True, we should always question, but adapting and conforming to your surroundings is how we become a positive influence within a society. Once you have fully tried to immerse yourself into the society you have chosen to become a part of and fully understand it, then you may constructively criticize it and work toward positive change. Coming in kicking and screaming will get you nowhere fast.
So in summary, the quote reference has nothing to do with the society in which it speaks of, but more of accepting and conforming to the ways pronounced acceptable by the society you’ve chosen to be a part of. If you don’t like it, no-one is making you stay.
Camden Crew
1:40 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Yea, the Man, you really are the man, can't even correct someone's use of ENGLISH correctly.(English- originating from the English Language) from the country Great Britain)
NB: Americans did not create English, they corrupted it.
Mike Rath
4:43 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Truth is she slashed someone with a box cutter.. Not once, but a number of times..If she is as legal as you say, she could have gotten an order of protection..
Don't apologize, know the law..
cashie1982
5:20 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
there was an order but she disobeyed the law
Mike Rath
5:26 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
If you disobey the law (assuming you are telling the truth) is it OK if someone slashes your face???
cashie1982
5:42 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
no its not im not sayn slashing sum1s face is right at all but me knowing her i doubt it was meant to b that way
Camden Crew
1:46 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
At the end of the day she understands she did something wrong, no one is trying to gather sympathy for her, just trying to suppress the lynch mob!
Linda
4:49 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
What do we know about her? Does she have a job, any kids? Is she recieving any tax funded programs (freebies as I like to call them)? How dare we have a President that thumbs his nose to our rule of law. This bum should be impeached. This is the first time in my adult life that I do not feel any respect for the Office of the President of the United States! I live in Lawrenceville, NJ. There are so many gangs in the City of Trenton, it has become a cesspool! Most of the decent tax paying citizens have left the area. I get sick when I see these Libs in this states pandering to the illegals.
Doreen M. Lopez
7:11 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
I am not sure what President Obama has to do with the "gangs in the City of Trenton". Trenton has had gang issues, amongst other issues, long before President Obama was voted into the office of The President of the United States of America. Trenton has had issues as far back as I can remember (1980's). Maybe someone should look at the "leaders" of the City of Trenton!
Nancy VanTwistern
11:19 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Let the 'COURTS DECIDE' and who pays for her lawyer and the court and all that stuff?? She is NOT A CITIZEN and therefore is not entitled to any help for as she is ILLEGAL.. am I thinking straight here? Ship her back........................and then no expense in incurred for her keep or legal expenses.
Leianne
4:12 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
She has never been in trouble with the law, has no kids, has a job, receives no aid from the government and lives in the suburbs, the stalker in this case comes from the ghetto in Pensauken and went out of her way looking for a fight with someone she thought would NEVER fight back!
Leianne
4:14 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Only a bigot would blame Obama for what occurs in TRENTON or CAMDEN or any other God-forsaken predominantly black "tenantry" on the EASTERN SEABOARD!!!
Cinnaminson Resident
4:59 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Nobody deserves a face slashing!!!! You seem like a real classy family "Hopping Madd". I pray your family member gets exactly what they deserve...jail and sent back to Barbados.
james
6:45 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
It seem you all have already condem, her already, what ahame people
Leianne
4:22 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
If she cannot prove in court that she felt threatened, cornered, or that she lost it from years of harassment then of course she should get what she deserves and I would support the court's decision but to think that the jury will be made up by people like you is sad, Hopping Mad seems to be someone who knows a lot more about what caused the accident than a lot of those who left their intellectual opinions on here, but if its indeed a family member of course they would defend her even if she is proven wrong for resorting to using a weapon, as anyone else in the world would do! for theirs. What if Ashley Anderson turns out to be a repeat felon, 400 lbs with a face like Sasquatch, would your opinions about an illegal defeding herself change? I DOUBT!!!! Oh say can you see? .... (No, not really!!!)
Leianne
4:29 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
As for Nancy VanTwistern who is such a coward she did not make it possible for persons to respond on her comment: The illegal can afford bail and a lawyer since she has saved so hard and has a family to support her! She does not need your government's "HELP" Barbados may be less developed in your eyes but our pride and industry and depend on no one attitude is far more than I can say for what exists in your country! But just look at your idiotic thinking, just ship her back and save the expense! If she has committed a crime, should she not pay for it first? Do you think she can be tried in Barbados for something that happened in another country? And everyone keeps talking about sending her back and deportation as if when she goes back to Barbados she is going to an uncivilized country or that it is a form of punishment. News cast americans, not everyone in the world thinks of the USA as the promised land!
chris
5:52 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
@Leianne, Hopping mad also made it a race issue which I find quite pathetic. If Ms. Holt had an order of protection from Ms. Anderson then Ms Anderson with be and should be charged with a crime. This however in no way gives Ms. Holt a reason to take out a box cutter and repeatedly slash her neck and face 7 times. Everyone is permitted to reasonably defend themselves but according to the Police and news reports Ms. Anderson didn't have a weapon and was even walking away. WAWA has video and there was several witnesses to the incident so im sure Ms. Holts trial will be fair and her clean criminal history will be taken into account.
cashie1982
5:24 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
ur rite no 1 deserves it but at the same time if ur puhed 2 protect urseft n u have been following the law of non violence n duin paper work thats necessary n me knwing her as a non violent woman sry it was her face but she got wat she deserved
Mike Rath
5:30 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
I feel a whole lot better knowing YOU know her to be a "non-violent" woman. Obviously you are incorrect unless face slashing is now a party game..
cashie1982
5:46 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
thats your opinion the way it happened no it was right but wat wldu have dun if u was in a situation like that n im not say the so called legal was im tlkn bout real life nobody is perfect n accidents happen so y shldnt the girl b penalized 4 not obeying her order
Lynn
6:09 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
How can you say she was following the Law if she was here ILLEGALLY????????
Tom M
6:35 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Cashie - You are correct. If the victim of the stabbing was disobeying a restraining order, she should (and will be) punished by the court of law. However, your friend should be punished for stabbing someone with a box cutter and should be deported for violating the law, if she is an undocumented immigrant.
Doreen M. Lopez
7:13 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
English language PLEASE!!!!!!! Not "text" language, not shortcut language ~ ENGLISH language!
cashie1982
7:27 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
yall are really lookin at lettering are u serious this a discussion n freedom of speech not if you dont spell it right it wont b posted wow youare the one that need to grow up wow
Tom M
9:43 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Cashie, by writing that way you make yourself seem like an unintelligent fool. Therefore, you give yourself ZERO credibility. People might be more interested in what you have to say, if they didn't have to decipher it like morse code, first.
tom
5:27 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Hopping Madd, I hope when they deport her you hold very tight to her hand and don't let go. Also grab hold of one of your family and so on and so on with all the rest of the illeagles I see every day at that Wawa.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:21 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I'm confused...........was the perp 'illegal' or her 'victim'?? Anyway, if both, PICK 'EM UP, SHIP 'EM OUT' PROMTO!!
Tom M
5:28 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
I am confused. How does an undocumented immigrant file paperwork for a restraining order against another person?
chris
5:40 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Intresting question Tom
Ric
5:59 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Probably senator Menendez pushed the paperwork. I would not be surprised to learn he paid the bail.
Kim
7:59 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
I was wondering the same thing.....
james
11:22 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
You all come to your oun concluesion who say that she is an undocumented immigrant, how did she get there by walking over the border from barbados dammes .
Tom M
11:57 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
James, the police investigation lead to the information that she is an undocumented immigrant. No one here came to "their own conclusion" about her immigration status.
Leianne
4:32 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
because everyone despite status-even prisoners and God forbid- "blacks" have a right to be free from harassment, smh
Camden Crew
12:40 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Anyone, no matter their status can go to the police and the police who are not immigration officers are not required to question their status, unfortunately she the accused did not know that, and so lived with the harassment (several physical attacks and confrontations and abusive texts) for 4 years.
chris
5:32 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Jezz cashie how about the crazy chick dat dosent like obeying the law and slashes another woman in the face and neck wiith a box cutter then runs across the street and tries to discards the weapon she used ? was this illegal alien just exercising her rights under the US Constitution ?
Camden Crew
12:43 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Wuh ent catch yuh ain't pass yuh Chris... ask a bajan wuh dat mean, if you not too xenophobic to have any "alien" friends.
Texas NDN
5:43 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
An ILLEGAL alien charged with aggravated assault with a weapon, possession of a weapon, possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose and tampering with evidence....lock her up & leave her. When she's done serving her time, deport her back where she came from.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:23 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
No, No, Texass..........ship her up right away. Who do you think PAYS for her incaration?? with our taxes no less..........
Camden Crew
12:44 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
oh? NO COURT CASE? TEXAN lynch mob style?
Dan Reynolds
5:46 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
1 - Box cutters are not illegal. They are illegal to bring onboard a public passenger aircraft.
2 - Please type like adults, not 10 year olds texting each other.
3 - Illegal or face slashing victim which is the bigger issue here?
Thanks,
Mike Rath
6:02 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
A concealed weapon is illegal..
Your welcome
Doreen M. Lopez
7:15 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Dan, thank you for your commnent #2! I just posted a comment about typing in English, not text writing, not shortcut writing ~ English!! :)
Dan Reynolds
11:46 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Sorry Mike, its not. If it were, small knives would be banned or require a license.. however anyone can walk into a Home Depot and buy a lot of box cutters.
http://knife-expert.com/nj.txt
Your Welcome.
Mike Rath
9:52 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
2C: 39-4
Camden Crew
12:47 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
This has been one of the most fair and balanced comments so far from some one not personally attached to the case, thanks Dan. This is a tragic incident and we have to await the outcome of the trial, hopefully none of these xenophobic racist self-righteous hypocrites will be on the jury
james
5:50 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Ashley thought Holt was afraid of her that's why she has been horrass for years, it it ok because someone is illegal?She call for it, she went looking for trouble, but sorry it happen this way,Holt is the nicest young lady i have ever meet.
cashie1982
5:58 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
i agree we have been friends 4 yrs n she would not hurt nobody this had to be a form of self defense im also sorry for the way it ended out to b but i know shes a gud person she had to be provoked for this to happen
Mike Rath
5:52 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Obviously getting nowhere with this mind set. You make me mad, I rearrange your face. Let whoever post bail and let the courts take care of it.. Just wonder what the results would be if this happened in Barbados.. If it's OK there, you know my next question..
cashie1982
5:59 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
don't judge
Camden Crew
12:50 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Its not ok anywhere and no one is more remorseful than her, thats why she never tried to run and cooperated with police. You want to know if its ok here? Ask Rihana or Chris Brown, you heard of them right?
cashie1982
6:57 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
i just wanna know were is the guy she was working with n anderson is so called fighting over as some people is saying WHERE IS HE ANY WHY DIDNT HE STOP IT
Mike Rath
7:01 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Sorry, if someone has a box cutter, I'm not stopping anything!! Call 911/ try to talk them out of it--but interfere?? NOT
cashie1982
7:08 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
it was so called over him so y didnt he stop it 4 it got that far is my question u know what i mean he is the cause of this whole dumbness
james
11:33 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Yes where is he, i think he should be lockup for leting Ahaly come to the wawa knowing that halt is there, he know that Ashly is crazy so its all his fault.
Katie Scott
7:08 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
For cashie1982, HOPPING MADD FAMILY MEMBER, james, and Jeremiah: Bottom line is that Holt had a choice and she made the WRONG one! If she was supposedly being harassed by Anderson, and there was legal documentation including a restraining order, the proper choice for Holt to make was to seek help. She could've asked outright for help. She could've asked for someone in the WaWa to contact the police on her behalf and perhaps ask to be placed in a "safe" area where it would not have been in contact with Anderson. Did she take these steps? None of that unfortunately has been stated, only lead us readers to believe that she was the sole attacker of this incident. FURTHERMORE-NO ONE DESERVES TO BE STABBED! You say it was "self-defense", however the reports show that Andersons back was turned and Holt proceeded to stab Anderson. Did Anderson hit Holt and therefore in "self-defense" use a box cutter to assault Anderson? Or was it just Assault of the verbal nature? We may never know, further investigations will probably made due to the content you 4 have posted in regards to your allegations against Anderson, since you seem to know the circumstances. And by the way, since the 4 of you seem to condone Holt's actions, you must be very violent people and rule breakers yourselves. Perhaps you 4 need to be investigated as well.
HOPPING MADD FAMILY MEMBER
7:53 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
HIND SIGHT IS 20-20 vision. I would probably not have done what she did but if placed in a corner all human beings have something called survival sense which kicks in. As I said before I will wait for the trial for the truth to unfold. This is one "negra" that won't be scared into accepting a racially slanted plea bargain. The real sad thing is we are all ready to lynch Holt (the american way?) without a trial. Guilty until proven innocent.
chris
8:14 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
And the race hustler comes out
jeremiah
1:22 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I carry a hand gun every day, when Anderson fallowed Holt from Philly to her house in Pennsaukend @ 3am an assaulted her with a weapen an holt did the legal thing - had Anderson arrested an the restraining order an we all know how well they works, the next time you show up near my job at 7am an attack me, yes she was in here right to stabbed her cause it was me i would have shot her end of story. Ps. know all the facts before you speak1
Nancy VanTwistern
10:20 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Illegal is illegal............stop the fuss and 'ship 'em out'...back where they came from.... AND, then try to do it right and come in legally.
Danielle
7:29 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Is cashie typing in ebonics?
Dan Gaffney
3:15 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I believe that might be the case sadly
annonymous
7:32 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Man this has really hit it to the top . Watching from behind the counter as they were fighting seemed like there were previous encounters .. everyone is taking this to another level
james
11:38 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
thank you.
HOPPING MADD FAMILY MEMBER
7:43 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
I have visited YOUR SORRY excuse for a "UNITED" States (because obviously it belongs to some more than others) I can understand why some of you would be eager to distance yourselves from this tragic incident that has ended in someone being cut up. But don't ask me to rely on the NJ Police for "FACTS" about this case, they are just as jingoistic as some who posted on here, and as I predicted when I first learnt of it they have trumped up as many charges as possible against her since learning of her status. Let them publish the WAWA videos of the altercation! Let them NOT bury the paper trail of evidence that supports the abuse. I will not A-P-O-L-O-G-I-S-E (check YOUR dictionary or an OXFORD) for what I said earlier. It was better this happened than for Holt to be found dead in a back alley after years or unwarranted abuse, THIS should be a civil rights case not an attempted murder case. NO ONE should be subjected to harrassment and assault on a daily basis, on the job or on the way to work because of immigrant status. I know you are all hungry for details but Cashie1982 don't give them the pleasure. I hope you pontificating self-righteous charlatans don't find yourself in the situation HOLT was in for OVER 2 YEARS!
chris
8:19 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
We got it now......trumped up charges by racist police in the racist USA
I was wondering when a race hustler like you was going to play that card
KevinP
9:27 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
You spelled apologize wrong.
Cinnacide
8:19 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
What facts? She stabbed her in the face with a knife?!?!? Are you serious? Get the hell out of here lady.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:30 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I'm 'nitpicking'....for someone who is so self rightious and sure of their stand...the word is 'learned' not 'learnt'....and it's 'does not' not 'don't'... AND any sane person would not have even attempted what Holt attempted for over 2 yrs.... can the excuses....they both need to learn some control........and if 'illegal'.......tough stuff...go back from whence you came and do it the right way as 'my ancestors did a couple generations ago'... THEN you can bitch and moan and complain in a court of law 'legally'....Sorry about the nit picking but my 'back is up and fed up with perks illegals get that many citizens can't get'...
Camden Crew
12:53 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
HIND SIGHT IS ALWAYS GOOD SIGHT.
(I am one of the names you listed above but its been so long that I cannot remember the pass code, no intention to deceive)
Bruce
7:55 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
WAWA hires undocumented immigrants? ....I'm SHOCKED!......OK I'm a big dummy...but let me know how do undocumented immigrants get to work at WAWA?....and how does she pay taxes, or even get a paycheck from a corporation that gets audited regularly?....Oh yeah....they use box cutters at WAWA all the time!....so it was just a tool used on her job....(not guilty of hidden weapon charge)...
Nancy VanTwistern
11:31 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I wonder?? paid under the table???
HOPPING MADD FAMILY MEMBER
7:59 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Mike Rath, I agree with you that America is civilised and we are not here in Barbados, that's why you are one of the most violent cultures in the world, have the right to bare arms, kill in the name of anti-terrorism, keep black people and other minorities in subjugation for 400 years and counting and perpetrate and conjure the most horrific crimes known to man??? Oh yea illegal immigrants with their little box cutters are the root cause of all your problems.
Tom M
8:17 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
The people that legally "bare arms" are not the ones committing crimes with guns. So, yes, it is a right we as American citizens are proud to have. I fully believe you and cashie that harassment was happening. However, no matter what harassment was going on, it gives no one (American citizen or not) the right to stab someone multiple times!
Mike Rath
8:30 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
If it's so bad here in America, there are alternatives.. Syria, Iraq, Egypt, North Korea and maybe even Barbados..You are an ant speck of our problems, but your problem is the one we're talking about and the one that you are screeching about..
I can't even imagine the uproar if it was a "white person" cutting a black with a box cutter.. Wake up..You're here, however that happened to be--Follow the law...
KevinP
9:28 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
People that love complaining about the racist USA sure do love sneaking in dont they?
Bruce
8:01 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Hopping Madd.....you are absolutely right our "UNITED" states are in SORRY shape....you want to know why?....BECAUSE THE USA AND THE WHITE HOUSE WELCOME ILLEGALS WITH OPEN ARMS...AND PROTECT THEM TO A FAULT...
Kim
12:09 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Amen....it's completely out of control. And it seems every one of them gladly accepts welfare & Medicaid from our "Sorry excuse for United States", yet curses us at the same time. Hopefully Obama's days in the White House are over soon, and this problem can be fixed.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:35 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
GETTING OUT OF CONTROL? It definitely IS out of control.....when you immigrate or sneak into another country at least 'learn the language and obey the laws' and that's not what so many do at all..........there was a woman in the newpaper awhile back who was here for 18 years and hadn't learned English....she was complaining about having to move out of the state she 'illegally' lived in because of new laws concerning ILLEGALS'...how's that for b**'s/nerve or being unreasonable??
Nancy VanTwistern
11:36 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
AND, for all you blaming Obama........check out the Bush 8 years and his pandering to all things foreign.......pals of the Saudis....perps of 9/11........anyone with any intelligence need not expect me to list it all...they already know...........
Camden Crew
12:55 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Oh yea the colombine, Waco Texas, Connecticut, ,... all those crimes were because of illegal immigrants.... -____-
HOPPING MADD FAMILY MEMBER
8:33 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
scholarly answer Bruce
Bruce
8:48 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Don't need to be a scholar to see the hand writing on the wall...I'm old......I won't feel the full effects you youngsters and your kids and grand kids will...
HOPPING MADD FAMILY MEMBER
8:34 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Bruce recheck your source which stated she works at WAWA, she does not.
Christine T
10:02 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
It truly amazes me how racist these comments are. Are all of you racists from Cinnaminson? If so how many of you would go to a public place and say these same comments?
Nancy VanTwistern
11:38 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I guess Christine, you do not mind that your taxes help these 'illegals' with all the benefits our/your taxes pay for.........both Federal and State........think about it, please. By the way, there is a 'legal way' to enter the U.S. if you have the intelligence to realize that fact!
Jerry
1:07 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Nancy, I quote you, "if you have the intelligence to realize that fact!".
Why do you refer to Christine's intelligence? Why? It is uncalled for.
Christine T
2:00 pm on Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Nancy, I made no reference to any illegals. I stated that I am amazed at how racist the people who have commented here are. Just because I don't comment on something does not leave something open for you to assume my opinion. I see you did not answer any of my questions. As you said, "I guess" you are correct. You are guessing! Do you know me? If you know me and feel that I have no intelligence that is your opinion. But if you do not know me, I see no way for you to speak on my intelligence.
mike
10:20 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
She looks normal.....It's all Obama's fault anyway.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:40 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
yea, sure, Mike............I like your sarcasm........if you don't know the facts/truth just blame the President of any other politician........but..............as an former Republican.........they really have gone to the dogs.......am now totally INDEPENDENT and plan to keep it that way.
Rodger Higgins
10:32 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Surely Barack will have her released so she can live out her dream.
james
11:49 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Its ahame useing this case to attact our presedent no respect.
Tom M
11:53 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
James, by writing that way you make yourself seem like an unintelligent fool. Therefore, you give yourself ZERO credibility. People might be more interested in what you have to say, if they didn't have to decipher it like morse code, first.
Cinnaminsoner
11:58 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I'll agree with James in a more credible way if you prefer, Tom. It is absolutely a shame to use this case to attack the president. Whether one supports Obama or not has nothing to do with this case. It seems like the people commenting here are using a rare violent event to bolster their own political views. In fact, racism and classism are so rampant in this thread that I am ashamed to share a township with these people. This is a sad thing to happen in any town, no doubt. But to let it breed hate makes it even more tragic.
Anaverage Man
12:31 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Cinnaminsoner, he (the president) has everthing to do with this case. If this person wasn't here, which they shouldn't be because they are here "illegaly", there would be no crime to report. Those who break the law have a tendancy to continue to disregard laws and Obama wants to give them a pass. This sends a message that laws in this country are meant to be broken. And why is it that every time someone thinks these criminals should be deported they are labeled a racist or a classist. We except the Native Americans are all imigrants, but there is a legal way to come to this country and become a citizen. Just because I believe those who choose to disregard our laws of immigration are doing so criminally doesn't make me a racist or classist. I do not place any illegal aliens in any racial, reliigious or social class, just call them as they are, criminals.
Cinnaminsoner
2:32 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
AnAverageMan, thank you for replying in a levelheaded (and properly spelled!) way. I see your point, but I still have to disagree. I think the real issue here is that the accused is a violent, dangerous person, which has nothing to do with immigrant status or Obama's policies on immigration.
Ric
2:49 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
@AnAverageMan. I do agree that those who come here illegally are more likely to commit crimes.
Sorry but Dubya also did very little deportation during his 8 years as president. Nor am I an immigrant. I was born here, therefore I am a natural born citizen. My parents and grandparents were also born in America.
Do not give that nonsensical all Americans are immigrants. If we were to follow that stupid logic, then all humans living outside of Africa are immigrants. An immigrant is:” A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.”
Anaverage Man
12:03 am on Thursday, February 21, 2013
@ Ric. I believe my comment about us being immigrants, was meant that if you go far enough back in your family history, you will find your ancestors were at some point immigrants.
Yes, we all migrated from Africa, but that's history that ridiculously predates the United States and therefore merits no breath other than that for response.
Who cares what Bush did. Do you live by the credo that if one does wrong, it is right for the next. Well.. that's just nonsensical stupid logic.
Christina Paciolla
10:34 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Again, no profanity—masked or not—is allowed on the site. Your comment will be promptly deleted and your account may be suspended.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:42 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Got/cha Christina............no more *** etc.....
Dan Reynolds
11:55 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012
The comments and jargon here are making me sick to be a member of the human race.
Seriously I am sorry some of you are so filled with hate.
james
12:05 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
well i see how much hate we as a people still have in us, we need a lot of prayes good night.
Luke Murry
8:20 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
"Fear leads to anger; Anger leads to hate; Hate leads to suffering." - Yoda
"Fear of something is at the root of hate for others, and hate within will eventually destroy the hater."- George Washington Carver
Understanding is so much more time consuming and difficult than judging.
Jessica
1:15 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I hold her dear to my heart and will NEVER let her go.... I have her in my prayer... And as for everyone else that has neg things to say are just ignorant.....
Cinnacide
8:21 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
1. Praying is absolutely useless.
2. Some one was stabbed in the face multiple times. If that happened to me, I wouldn't have anything positive to say.
Camden Crew
1:01 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
True that, Jessica, (Oh my bad, I need to enunciate my thoughts in a politically correct way thats acceptable to these jingoistic self loving crackerjacks....) That is very true Jessica.
Anonymous
9:28 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Illegal alien seems to be the latest catch phrase. I read many other stories this week where the criminals were not illegal aliens. Do we still blame the President for their crimes? Who do we blame then? They weren't minorities either. Who do we blame? Oh, and for spelling teachers that have posted,yes, in many countries such as South Africa, Barbados, England the "z" is replaced with a "s". This you would know if you were educated and worldly. I could see by your posts (with racial undertones) that you are not. Since you are a legal alien, you should perhaps take advantage of all the educational opportunities this beautiful country has to offer. I came here in 1972, became nationalized and did just that.
Nancy VanTwistern
11:43 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Anonymous............good for you................you did it the right way and are commended for doing so ..... have heard it's not easy but is the RIGHT WAY!!
Luke Murry
8:21 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Anonymous, I like you.
Camden Crew
1:14 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Thanks anonymous, I looked at that Nancy Twisted-brain person comments and just laughed at her uneducated derriere trying to correct my correct spelling of the word SPELT, I was not a bit SURPRISED because they seem to think that America is the CENTRE of the world (sic) and then try to classify people based on COLOUR, why do you think Obama gets so much licks on this post? Did he do anything but seek a continuance of the extensive and comprehensive immigration policies that have been a tenet of american open arms policy for centuries? Oh to not be the black dog selected to be king for a day on "kick the dog" day! I do not condone violent BEHAVIOUR but I know if the accused was white psychologists would find a million reasons for why she should be acquitted, yea go ahead and accuse me of playing the race card too, I played it because Amercia keeps putting it in the pack of cards.
Camden Crew
1:19 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
nacy Van Twistern or whatever your name is... are you like 9 years old? Because no normal adult can so consistently follow such an idiotic line of reasoning. So Anonymous naturalized via what process she did not say, was it a paid marriage agreement? Was is through having a lwayer in new york forge a birth certificate? She or He did not say but there you are always ready advising all those others who have illegal status to do the same as she did. I chose to leave your UNCIVILIZED country instead of resorting to breaking the law to pursue the "american" dream. Thank God I woke up from that dream. "Land of the free and blacks...."
...something like that.
Camden Crew
1:20 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
lawyer (typo) just because I know that's the only thing you will notice and be able to reply to in my comments
Jason Furrer
10:48 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Sgt. William Obuchowski is my hero!
Bob
11:14 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Some people just can't handle HoagieFest.
Cinnacide
2:07 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
The prices are so low, it's like murder!
John M Walker
11:43 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I am going to ask the question that lept to my mind: why would ANYONE leave Barbados for Cinnaminson? No hard feelings, folks, but the Caribbean beats Pomona Swim Club by a mile!
Bruce
8:56 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
...it just PROVES she's unstable! LOL
Camden Crew
1:24 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
NOW that is someone who has been to our paradise, are you in anyway related to Johnnie Walker, the "drink"?
Larry
12:12 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
A-r-r-r-g-h
Bowtie
7:01 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
What's sad is that its not illega to be illegal. Atleast they will have obamacare now
Jean Ortiz
2:52 am on Friday, July 20, 2012
I was harrassed by my husband's mistress (yes...that's right....mistress!) so badly...she even tried to get me fired from my job! She was mad at me because my husband took me out after he left me to be with her and was trying to work things out with me so she got mad and took it out on me! She even gave me a ticket FOR NO REASON which I had to fight in court (and won) because she was a traffic guard at the time and she saw me drive by! Through all the harassment and her taking my husband away from me, I would NEVER in my wildest imagination resort to cutting someone with a box cutter unless they were attacking me with a weapon and I couldn't defend myself any other way. The law is the law. If you don't obey, you deserve to be punished....illegal immigrant or not!
Camden Crew
1:32 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
MLKJ promoted non violence, Malcolm X promoted violence, they both died violently. (shrug)
How dare you try to assume that your case is anyway like hers, I appreciate what you are trying to say, no one should take the law into their own hands, lets just wait for the facts and stop using this "news" blog as a source of facts. "
and btw, we both agree, if she broke the law she should be punished ... on the preponderance of the evidence not on the whim and fancy of a blood hungry lynch
mob