Week in Review: A Bad Week for Code Violations and Fracking

John November 18, 2012 at 05:48 pm

Well, I guess people will do what they want to do in this town so if someone gets a summons for leaves being out I do not feel sorry for them....I happen to be driving on willow drive and there are 5 people that have put leaves out and the pick up for us is the first week in dec....I guess some people cannot read a calendar...oh well they have to learn the HARD WAY.....

jeff November 18, 2012 at 06:43 pm

well looks like cinnaminson could make a million dollars off the people due to all the leaves that are on ALL the corners ALL over cinnaminson....think its pretty hard not to put the leaves out earlty due to sooooo many are down and most people cant move them out to the curb during the week and only on weekends...so give us a break dude!!! :)

Ric November 18, 2012 at 07:11 pm

It looks like Cinnaminson should change the way they pick up leaves. Instead of monthly using a full crew, a backhoe and a trash truck how about every other week with a vacuum truck manned with merely one or two guys? It would save us lots of money on the long run and with a car or two less it would be now affordable.

Eric P November 18, 2012 at 08:39 pm

I think you might be on to something there Ric. Is Cinnaminson trying to minimize costs or maximize man-hours worked? I've never seen the leaf crew come thru. How many people are on a crew, including the back hoe and trash truck drivers?

Ric November 18, 2012 at 09:27 pm

@eric P. Thank you. I have to add that there is also the street sweeper that follows up. From what I observed there are the drivers of the three vehicles (backhoe, trash truck, sweeper) and I believe there are two more guys on the ground with at least one of them with a leaf blower.
I am not complaining about the quality of their work but I do believe if Cinnaminson were to use a vacuum truck the job could be done with a substantial savings in man-hours worked. The other day I watched one at work rather quickly and efficiently on New Albany Road in Moorestown. Considering the amount of leaves I see in my neighborhood (leaves line the curb from property line to property line) it might be more effective to collect leaves twice a month.

John November 19, 2012 at 01:42 am

@jeff, do it like I do start a pile in the front yard and leave it there and not put it in the streets, that way your not breaking the code ok DUDE other wise your going to pay the price for your trouble.....have a great day

dajoepa75 November 19, 2012 at 01:50 am

@John, sorry if this sounds stupid. Do you have sidewalks in your area; if you do, do you leave your leaves on the grassy area near the curb or up on your lawn? Do the backhoes go up the curb?

John November 19, 2012 at 01:54 am

@Ric, they cannot keep up now and U want them to work more, they use about 4 trucks besides the back hoe....besides they are only picking up leaves on Nov and Dec according to the schedule and my trees still have leaves on them good luck...

agent itchy November 19, 2012 at 11:03 am

i have no side walk and i place my excess leaves and brush on my lawn, in a pile in the corner of my property. it's that that difficult. backyard composting is where most of my leaves go because it makes excellent soil. i also generate less trash because of all the organic food matter and coffee grinds we generate.
less trash + no leaves in street + great soil = WIN

dajoepa75 November 19, 2012 at 12:03 pm

For those who do have sidewalk, you have to put In street close to curb unless they have equipment to go across sidewalk to lawn to pick them up. We do keep leaves In backyard for mulch and compost.

John November 19, 2012 at 02:40 pm

@dajoepa75, yes I have sidewalks and no I will not put the leaves in the streets until
its time for my pickup the 1st week in december, whats the problem....U do not have to make the streets look bad unless your going to be a jerk....have agood day

Ric November 19, 2012 at 03:09 pm

@John. Yes, but with the right equipment - not with the current inefficient backhoe with the trash truck street sweeper combination. On New Albany Road Moorestown uses just a vacuum truck with no more than a two man crew. The vacuum sucks up the leaves right up into its huge tank. Moorestown’s method is much quicker and requires half the crew or even less.
Our township is complaining that because it only picks up leaves monthly in November and December leaves are piling up along the curbs which are then clogging up the storm drains. There would be a lot less clogging if the leaves were picked up twice a month. Cinnaminson could do that if it were using the much more efficient vacuum truck that requires less than half the current crew. PS: Twice I saw how in a matter of moments how quickly Moorestown picked up piles of leaves on New Albany Road (near the Jeff Young Park and also by their big houses near Cinnaminson) just using the vacuum trucks - which were manned by no more than two people

dajoepa75 November 19, 2012 at 06:13 pm

John, we do not put them out ahead of schedule. Usually, we wait until the Sunday of the week of pickup. We put them out during the time we are allowed. My question was if there was a way not to put them in the street at all if you have sidewalks.

John November 19, 2012 at 06:59 pm

@dajoepa75, I am glad that you and I are among the few who do it the right way, today I was walking on willow and there are people who are putting leaves in the streets and its no where near our pick up time....I commend U for doing it right but I guess we are in the minority....I also know that we had Sandy blow thru and we still have stuff on the ground from that but we had a leaf pick up already...oh well 1st week in dec is coming soon have a good one......

Rich November 20, 2012 at 01:01 am

My leaves are scheduled to be picked up the 3rd week of the month. This past Saturday I was going to put my leaves out, Saturday morning I was woken up by the backhoe cleaning up the leaves on my street, a few days early of my scheduled pick. I thought, oh well I'll have to wait until next month, then I was woken again this morning by the backhoe cleaning leaves on the same street as one day prior. A waste of resources?